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To: tejek who wrote (139221)	9/21/2001 12:05:53 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1580507

Harry, I think the mindset of the terrorists who plan crimes like the WTC attack or who instigate the suicide bombers's mission is very close to that of the typical military commander. You are welcome to see them as being different. I'm glad Harry is welcome to see them as different, because that would probably mean I am welcome as well. I don't think the mindsets are similar. One is doing a job and he might dislike the enemy . The other has a seething hatred and thinks he is making himself in to a martyr. If I remember correctly, we fired missiles on a Sudanese hospital a few years back. Granted the missile was a real missile and not a plane loaded with a lot of civilians. It wasn't a hospital, I believe it was a factory that produces medicine. Still a bad thing but not as many people die. Also it was a mistake. You make it sound like we targeted a hospital. I love this country but from what I have read and seen, we are not always saints. Who said we are. We don't have to be saints for there to be an important moral distinction between our military actions and the attack on the WTC. Tim Edit - We will make you into a GW fan yet. When hell freezes over, Harry, when hell freezes over! What do you think of his speech tonight?

To: tejek who wrote (139221)	9/21/2001 11:19:43 AM
From: hmaly	Respond to of 1580507

Ted Re..You are welcome to see them as being different<<<<<<<< Thanks. There is no way I want to be lumped in with you , blame America first, liberals. I explained my reasons why they are different. Why don't you tell me how they are similar? If I remember correctly, we fired missiles on a Sudanese hospital a few years back. Granted the missile was a real missile and not a plane loaded with a lot of civilians.<<<<<<< That was done by your buddy Bill. It was a mistake; partially because the CIA didn't have enough proof that the pharmaceutical company was producing chemical weapons. It is quite possible the plant was producing both. Do you have any proof that they weren't producing chemical weapons there. Also Bill's mistake was to think a few missiles would do the job, when it is obvious now we have to deploy ground troops. You will also note that the plant was destroyed at night, when the people in the plant was minimal. I love this country but from what I have read and seen, we are not always saints.<<<<<<< Just because we have made mistakes in identifying targets, doesn't mean the military's mindset is to kill civilians. That is a long stretch to go from one to the other. And in the case of the soony faction<<<<<< I assume you mean Sunni faction. They barely have a nation let alone a strong military. <<<<< And by your reasoning we should quit picking on the poor underdog. They declared war upon us first, and have attacked us numerous times. It is about time we let them know what war is all about. There is nothing holy about it. We keep on letting them posturing and gaining confidence, when we should have ended their dreaming years ago. To win a war you can't keep on playing defense; as your country gets destroyed, and you aren't exacting a price. You have to go on the offense; and make them suffer so much, that they have no hope of continuing the suffering with no gain. Take Libya for example. When Reagon found out Libya sponsored the bombing in germany, he returned the favor to Khadafi, killing his son and just missing Khadafi. According to your theory, their should be thousands of Khadifi's out there trying to exact revenge by now. Instead Khadafi decided shortly after the bombing that terrorism cost too much. Libya curtailed its sponsoring of terrorism, turned over the terrorist in the Pam Am bombing and last week condemned the bombing in NY. Where is there any evidence that sitting here and taking it is the right thing to do. I just gave you one example where striking back ended terrorism. Want another. When terrorists started hijacking planes, one of the planes landed, I believe in Ethiopia, where the plane sat on the runway and the terrorist started making demands. Addis Adaba, the ruler lead an assault team, stormed the plane, shot every terrorist, and said anyone else would get the same. Guess what? While everyone else had terrorist problems after that, no terrorist ever again came near Ethiopia with a plane again. That is how you stop terrorism, make it too expensive. On a similar note, how about GW's speech last night. Looks like you can kiss your one term and out campaign goodby. Let's only hope the terrorists can be routed as easily and as thoroughly as the dems were.