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To: tejek who wrote (139253)	9/21/2001 6:34:34 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1580832

Hama Rules By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN nytimes.com

To: tejek who wrote (139253)	9/21/2001 11:39:31 PM
From: milo_morai	Respond to of 1580832

<font color=purple>.Unbelievable nForce chipset performance: cimg.163.com (AMD 1.2g + nForce( is 19% faster than (1.5g with 850chipset) cimg.163.com more pictures and detail.. tech.163.com tech.163.com tech.163.com source boards.fool.com Interesting Comments by Author: BlackMagicGuy Number: of 77771 Subject: Are you guys sleeping??? Date: 9/21/01 10:22 PM Post New • Post Reply • Reply Later • Create Poll • Post News Report this Post • Recommend it! Recommendations: 6 Sorry about the poor title. Look at boards.fool.com , post by Wenh99 earlier today. It's a reference to a chinese article with some sneak-previews of nForce's performance. We've all heard rumors, and speculated, and discussed this topic to death. Now that we've gotten our first taste of some real numbers, the post gets a whole 1 rec. Look at the article, I can't read it but the graphs tell the whole story. Dual DDR bandwidth benchmark is 70% faster that of the 760 chipset today in memory performance. Single DDR solution is about 20% faster. For 3DMark, dual DDR nForce is 30% faster than single DDR nForce (which likely beats any Athlon solution). Video & audio performance are excellent. My favorite graph is on page 2, Quake 3. Intel's 'great' RDR 850 scores 51 f/s; dual nForce scores 66, 33% butt spanking. Yeah, the evaluation lacks the thoroughness of most reviews that we're used to, but we have to take what we get. So, where the excitement? Has the bombing broken everyone's spirit, can't you show some emotions? Let me put some reference on this. On average when you go to a faster MHz CPU in the same system, you might get half of the % in MHz increase in the net performance gain. For example, if you upgrade from 1.0g Athlon to a 1.4 GHz Athlon, that's a 40% MHz increase but will only net a 20% actual performance gain. So, assume the dual DDR nForce does a 20% gain on average across multiple benchmarks. That is the same gain we would see going from the fastest 1.4g Athlon today & replacing it with a 2.0 GHz Athlon. If AMD said that a 2 GHz Athlon would ship tomorrow, would you get excited? Part 2 of the scenario, Palomino. Rumors are for a 15% performance gain at the same MHz, and it may start shipping at 1.5 GHz. Put it all together. Assume 1.4g Athlon today is roughly equivalent to a 2GHz P4. With a 1.5g Palomino, dual DDR nForce, it will be like running Athlon at 2.1 GHz today. Assume P4 loses 300 MHz against it, then we're looking at easily the equivalent performance of a 2.4 GHz P4. And this isn't a product a year away, everyone is saying next month. It's not uncommon to have delays with products that are 6 months away, but usually when you're talking about 1 month the work is done, & everyone is just ramping product at that point so there isn't much risk of delays. Also, AMD has repeatedly said Q4 would be a real marketing push, so we'll see some TV ads to help educate the public. So guys, how about a little discussion? Let me be the first to ask if anyone knows of a good chinese-to-english translator site, or would someone take an hour & post it here? If you can't get excited about 1) great CPU's, 2) great chipsets, 3) real marketing, and 4) 1 month away; maybe your spirit is more in need of a recharge than I thought. Good luck to all of you. Wenh99, THANK YOU for posting this reference. Black Magic