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To: Jill who wrote (874)	9/22/2001 10:44:21 AM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 281500

Terrorist Attacks Redraw the Global Map The New World Order by James Ridgeway with Camelia E. Fard Tekboy, is there any merit to this piece in the Village Voice Don't know about tekboy, but I certainly enjoyed it. Thanks for posting it. John

To: Jill who wrote (874)	9/22/2001 10:45:01 AM
From: tekboy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

much of what it says seems pretty straightforward to me, although I think it goes too far in speculating on what we are going to do (e.g., invade and conquer Afghanistan) and what the consequences of that will be. I don't think the administration has decided to do that yet, and I think a lot of people in it understand the dangers the authors set out. Oh, and I think they're a bit anticapitalist conspiracy-theory oriented when they go on about the connection of all this to oil interests in Central Asia and the Caspian Basin. Do those interests exist? yes. Will they be driving U.S. policy on such a subject as a war? Absolutely not. For background on the Caspian energy issues involved, see here: foreignaffairs.org tb@enclopediabrown.com

To: Jill who wrote (874)	9/22/2001 8:33:22 PM
From: George Papadopoulos	Respond to of 281500

>Whether or not the U.S. knocks off Osama bin Laden, the attack on New York and the capital provides Washington with an extraordinary opportunity to project power for the long term in Central Asia by setting up a pro-Western government in Afghanistan. The U.S. could then oversee a pipeline across that nation from the rich Caspian oil fields to ports in Pakistan, and would be perched to react to political changes in volatile Iran. An outpost in Afghanistan would also give America added leverage with Europe and with Russia, which has always had a heavy hand in the region. Bingo! >is there any merit to this piece in the Village Voice? I YES! George@waronterrorismmybuttit'sallaboutresources4oureconomy.com

To: Jill who wrote (874)	9/23/2001 9:42:25 AM
From: SirRealist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The Voice article: I'd add that some details need working out, like say, since we recognize the royalty-in-European-exile as the legit Afghan leader, how do we get the Northern Front folks working with us? (Answer: Bye-bye royalty!) As part of our surgical mission strategies, I should think using Special Forces to torch poppy fields is a critical component, too. In our search for chemical warfare attacks, I'd say targeting European & US cities with an abundance of 'Tears of Allah' (a concentrated liquid super-heroin) could have a significant destabilizing societal impact. And then there's the impact of a few million Afghani fleeing refugees on its neighbors - some of whom will likely be part of Bin Laden's operatives. And all of whom will strain resources and create fresh tensions. Details, details. The list goes on and on.