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To: Carolyn who wrote (185329)9/22/2001 11:00:31 AM
From: Ga Bard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
This is an interesting and alarming read . This piece written for the New York Times Magazine by Jeffrey Goldberg last summer is not soothing bedtime material. However, as we have so often heard, the master plan of Adolf Hitler was very clearly laid out for all to read about, well before he assumed power. It's just that few bothered to do so. If Goldberg's interpretations of the madrasa schools of Pakistan and Afghanistan are fair (and we have no reason to believe they're not), then we have a very clear -- and alarming -- forecast of what is to come for the United States.

Take the time and read it all.

Exerpt:"All things come from Allah," one student said. "The atomic bomb comes from Allah, so it should be used."

I then asked: Who wants to see Osama bin Laden armed with nuclear weapons? Every hand in the room shot up. The students laughed, and some applauded.

But, I said, innocent people would inevitably die if the bomb was used. Even if the West, or Russia, is subjugating Muslims, does that give bin Laden and his supporters the right to kill innocent people?

"Osama has never killed anybody innocent," one student, whose name was Ghazi, answered.

"What if you were shown proof that he did?"

"The Americans say they have proof, but they don't give it to the Taliban."

I then presented a hypothetical scenario. "What if," I asked, "you were shown a video in which Osama bin Laden was actually seen murdering a woman. What then?"

There was a pause. A student named Fazlur Razaq stood up: "The Americans have all the tricks of the media. They can put Osama's head on the body of someone else, and make it seem like he's killing when he's not doing it."

I then took from my notebook my secret weapon: the 1998 fatwa issued by bin Laden's organization -- the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders -- concerning the presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia. I read them a passage, the English translation of which reads as follows: "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the Al Aksa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim."

Here it is, I said, in black and white: bin Laden calling for the death of all Americans, civilian and military.

"Osama didn't write that," one student yelled, and the others cheered. "That's a forgery of the Americans."

I asked one final question, more out of self-interest than anything else: What would you do if you learned that the C.I.A. had captured bin Laden and was taking him to America to stand trial?

A student who gave his name as Muhammad stood up: "We would sacrifice our lives for Osama. We would kill Americans."

What kind of Americans?

"All Americans."


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To: Carolyn who wrote (185329)9/23/2001 12:16:24 AM
From: rich4eagle  Respond to of 769670
 
Yes, I was informed by others that he talked to her. Others had told me he snubbed her and were so giddy and happy that he did, I am glad he didn't. She was on TV at least four times last week, and did a good job each time, so maybe she was just in a trance, everyone does not have to jump for joy everytime Mr. Bush speaks