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To: westpacific who wrote (10046)9/22/2001 3:04:09 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi West,
I agree with most of the article but:
starting with our president, used the adjective 'cowardly' to describe the perpetrators. This is inappropriate.
I disagree here simply because your friend is putting the same constraint on the word coward as many have recently. By the definition in the dictionary he is absolutely correct, however in the common vernacular of our day cowardly also denotes an attack on innocents or at least defenseless victims. The dictionary entry will eventually be modified to catch up with the dynamics of a living language.

The same issue surfaces with the presidents use of 'crusade'. Most people look at crusade as a campaign with extra zeal, not necessarily religious at all. Unfortunately the other side and their apologists are taking it literally in in its Archaic form of a Christian Holy War.

All just MHO.

Message 16363557

regards
Kastel
acute and cuddly Canadian



To: westpacific who wrote (10046)9/22/2001 8:38:45 PM
From: get shorty  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
I'm not sure if I agree with this premise:

>>>"Despite the evidence of Barbara Olson that the hijackers were armed with 'knife-like weapons,' it is almost inconceivable that each of the four skyjack teams did not have at least one firearm.>>>

It's been disclosed that dozens of air-phone and cell phone calls were made by passengers during their tragic flights. Thus far, none of the calls made public, have made any reference to a firearm. They've been consistent in their description of knives, box cutters, and "bombs". Presumably, the hijackers would draw everyone's attention to a firearm, if they had one, in their efforts to control the passengers.

When I learned the hijackers were armed with knives and such, I tried to understand just how they were able to take control of the passengers while outnumbered and poorly armed.

My speculation turned up at least one scenario: The passengers had no clue what the hijackers wanted. Money, political asylum, media attention to their cause, what was their agenda? Perhaps they were told if they just stayed put and cooperated, no one harm would come to them. Similar to how if one were robbed at knife point, you'd hand your wallet over if you were reasonably certain that your life was not in peril.

One of the passengers of flight 93 learned via air-phone, from his wife, that airliners had been flown into the WTC. He told his wife that he and others were going to jump the hijackers. Once the agenda became clear, he and other passengers, took action to prevent it.

I count the crew and passengers of flight 93 amongst the many, many, heroes that have been borne by the WTC tragedy.

regards,
-shorty



To: westpacific who wrote (10046)9/24/2001 10:11:14 PM
From: YourKing  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Tell the 260 plus people in the planes that they aren't 'cowardly'..oh wait, they can't..they had no chance of defending themselves aboard those planes...If that ain't cowardly, I don't know what is..