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Strategies & Market Trends : Steve's Channelling Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Zeev Hed who wrote (28486)9/22/2001 3:54:17 PM
From: James Calladine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 30051
 
Zeev, I never thought before that you and Santyana were speaking from the same pulpit.....

Namaste!

Jim



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (28486)9/22/2001 5:18:03 PM
From: ajtj99  Respond to of 30051
 
For a quick glance to get fair values in a crash, you could just take the lows from Aug. 1982, apply the historical 10% return on equities to extrapolate around 800 SPX and 6400 Dow in 2003, based on a beginning base of about 100 SPX and 800 Dow in Aug. 1982.

That's a little overly simplistic, but it still worth noting.

It is difficult to find a better base than 1990 for the NDX and Nasdaq, so extrapolating from there it appears that with historic returns the NDX is closer to fair value than the COMPX, but this index has had lots of changes in the recent years so it is difficult to compare.

If you apply these as base for fair value in a crash, I come up with around 1150 COMPX in 2003. However, 1250 seems like a more likely number. As for the NDX, I wouldn't have a clue, as we are under that extrapolated value now.

Of course, these are not taking into consideration P/E or growth, which are huge factors to consider. Trendines would also seem to support 1250 COMPX as a decent level of crash support in 2003.

I would caution anyone against using overly simplistic P/E's to value tech stocks without regard to earnings growth rates.

Historically, tech stocks have had higher earnings growth rates and have been accorded higher P/E's as a result. I don't see why that should change in the future.



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (28486)9/22/2001 5:19:45 PM
From: Dave Pestle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 30051
 
Zeev, it seems you're handling this downturn differently
than earlier this year. IIR, you were mostly stopped out and
then made a correct call to get back in April after the market turned
sharply with volume. This time you seem willing to risk some
downside, thinking the bottom is very near.

Would you please explain how you've approached these market
bottoms differently?

Thanks,
Dave