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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (56078)	9/23/2001 1:46:44 AM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: they waited for 900MHz to better match their customer's needs. This is exactly what they are doing with the current Xeon. You're wrong. (see, I can make unqualified, unsupported blanket statements too, as long as that's the way you want to structure the discussion) Do you really think that masking megahertz in favor of model numbers is going to be the cure-all for AMD's marketing troubles? You'll find out next quarter, won't you? Rendering has traditionally been Intel's weakness, but Hyperthreading will take it up and past the performance of the Athlon. No it won't. my only comment was debunking your theory that SOI gave Motorola . Theory? It's reality. It has happened. There are always core and configuration changes that take place between process generations, but Motorola is experiencing a huge increase in real performance as it moves to SOI. What part of that is SOI cannot be easily determined, but the increase happened. You can stick your head in the sand, but what is will still be. I still have no idea what you're talking about. . Or much of anything else. Your naivete regarding this industry is stunning. Why do you think DEC/Compaq's clearly superior Alpha didn't crush Intel? (and AMD) The software is the hard part. Intel is making it easy for their engineers by letting them off the hook when it comes to running the 20 years of accumulated IBM PC architecture code. But that makes life a nightmare for their customers. AMD has a better approach.

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (56078)	9/23/2001 9:18:42 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

Wanna: At IDF, Intel demonstrated a 30% performance increase in a popular rendering program by using Hyperthreading. Rendering has traditionally been Intel's weakness, but Hyperthreading will take it up and past the performance of the Athlon. It can also conceivably add performance to many other kinds of applications. And this is all without a new core. With P4 optimizations, P4 2GHz roughly matches 1.4GHz Tbird and 1.2GHz Palomino in rendering complex scenes. HyperThreading would certainly give the P4 a clear lead, but only if P4 optimizations are in place as well and to the best of my knowledge, only Maya currently has these optimizations, but I wouldn't be surprised if 3D Studio and Lightwave (the other major competitors) are optimized within a year or so. Of course, won't help unless people upgrade ;-) I'm very much looking forward to seeing the performance characteristics of HyperThreading. Which applications will benefit from it? From some of the things I've heard, it sounds like much of the front-end of the P4 might be doubled. This should allow quite a boost in many applications. Regardless, I speculate that the main increase in performance will be in Workstation-type applications. I really don't see most server-apps benefitting all that much. [oddly enough, this is the same segment where Itanium shines ;-)] -fyo