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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (17848)	9/23/2001 9:51:33 PM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 208838

Sure it is possible to create other "melting pots", Israel is one such example where people from widely different cultures and widespread differences in standard of living have come together in relative harmony. The standard of living of Israeli Arabs, while still lower than that of their Jewish Israeli (but higher than new immigrants from Ethiopia) is probably the highest of all the middle east outside Israel, even the standard of leaving of Arabs in the Palestinian authorities wa much higher than it was during the Hashemite occupation and was rapidly climbing, until a year ago (since then it could have been halved as far as I know). Zeev

To: X Y Zebra who wrote (17848)	9/23/2001 11:26:29 PM
From: brightness00	Respond to of 208838

1) The fear of "over-population" has been bothering the minds of some since before the original Industrialization. The English founded the North American Colonies in order to export "excess population." Back then, there was about 100,000 people living in Lodon. Today, there are over thirty times as many. 2) Most socialist "population engineering" to date, whether it was to maximize population growth or minimized population growth, has proven to be grossly dis-guided, arrogant, and wreck more unintended havocs than the supposed benefits could ever justify. 3) The key to prevent the growth of "restless youth," or "excess population," has always been the abundance of opportunities. People with "new frontier" to explore and conquer, whether it be physical territories or new scientific-technological-business growth opportunity, will have less time to cause trouble to others around them. The overwhelming majority of people ARE "smart ones," quite capable of maximizing utiliy for themselves, whether it's at the expense of others or otherwise. That's why the pie has to be kept growing. That means lower tax, whether it be monetary levy, regulation, or wanton social engineering. 4) Ultimately, earthlings will have to expand beyond the planet, just like the Western Civilization discovered the New World and sustained exponential growth, whereas the Chinese, the Russians, the Turks/Muslims and numerous dead civilizations settled into centralized bureacratic malaise. There will be a time, probably not long off from now, when the means of transportation makes the national boundaries on this planet meaningless; a centralized global government will emerge, intially likely with some lofty goals such as protecting global human rights, enforcing trading rules, or protecing us all from terrorism. Eventually such a beauracratic enterprise will not escape the seduction of Bread-and-Circus, and the heavy taxation on earth that will be required to support such a system. Jim