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To: Ga Bard who wrote (185727)9/23/2001 6:03:09 PM
From: gao seng  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
He came dancing across the water
With his galleons and guns
Looking for the new world
In that palace in the sun.

On the shore lay Montezuma
With his coca leaves and pearls
In his halls he often wondered
With the secrets of the worlds.

And his subjects
gathered 'round him
Like the leaves around a tree
In their clothes of many colors
For the angry gods to see.

And the women all were beautiful
And the men stood
straight and strong
They offered life in sacrifice
So that others could go on.

Hate was just a legend
And war was never known
The people worked together
And they lifted many stones.

They carried them
to the flatlands
And they died along the way
But they built up
with their bare hands
What we still can't do today.

And I know she's living there
And she loves me to this day
I still can't remember when
Or how I lost my way.

He came dancing across the water
Cortez, Cortez
What a killer.

--Neil Young, Cortez The Killer

Offering life in sacrifice, so that others could go on is wrong.



To: Ga Bard who wrote (185727)9/23/2001 6:14:02 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
I'd suggest that you are totally ignorant of who I have dealt with in my life and how many adults and youth I may have counseled. I have over thirteen thousand pics on my web site. The general theme of these is celebrating young people do good stuff and enjoying America. The news documents hate and division. I try to document love, joy and all that's good.

I rarely assume what anothers life experience my be. You have justified in you own mind that killing the unborn is OK. You speak of your expert opinion of what you know went on in several peoples mind. Gee, did you ever consider that you are full of in in this situation and in spite of you a child survived. Maybe that pro-life person knows she behaved badly and is ashamed or maybe she has other demons that prevent her from reaching out. Or maybe she is pig headed self-righteous about her absolute knowledge of what's in the head and heart of others just like you.

No you have absolute faith in you opinion and your opinion of what other men think and feel and believe in their heart.
You are noble, fair minded and the rest are extremists.

You are coming across to me as one fat headed arrogant dude.

tom watson tosiwmee



To: Ga Bard who wrote (185727)9/23/2001 6:14:50 PM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 769670
 
You do not realize it but Pro Lifers do more to harm to the issues where Pro Choice in an unbias way convey the choice of options.

Another quick lie. DO you even see it? Cut it out. FLowery words cannot hide them poet.

As per abortionists:

Counselors are just to give the appearance of help. . . [They] think of themselves as company for the women." --abortion counselor

"I have never yet counseled anybody to have the baby. I'm also doing women's counseling on campus at Albany State, and there I am expected to present alternatives. Whereas at the abortion clinic you aren't really expected to." --abortion counselor


from : Rachel Weeping and Other Essays About Abortion. James Tunstead Burtchaell, editor. New York: Universal Press, 1982 pgs 42-43

"I was trained by a professional marketing director in how to sell abortions over the telephone. He took every one of our receptionists, nurses, and anyone else who would deal with people over the phone through an extensive training period. The object was, when the girl called, to hook the sale so that she wouldn't get an abortion somewhere else, or adopt out her baby, or change her mind. We were doing it for the money." --Nina Whitten, chief secretary at a Dallas abortion clinic under Dr. Curtis Boyd
"They [the women] are never allowed to look at the ultrasound because we knew that if they so much as heard the heart beat, they wouldn't want to have an abortion."-Dr. Randall


from :'Pro-Choice 1990: Skeletons in the Closet" by David Kuperlain and Mark Masters in "New Dimensions" magazine.

"I have seen hundreds of patients in my office who have had abortions and were just lied to by the abortion counselor. Namely "This is less painful than having a tooth removed. It is not a baby." Afterwards, the woman sees Life magazine and breaks down and goes into a major depression." --Psychologist Vincent Rue

from: "Abortion Inc" David Kupelian and Jo Ann Gasper, New Dimemsions, October 1991 p 16.