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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Carolyn who wrote (5040)	9/23/2001 8:19:34 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

You're telling me an American government official would publicly admit something this bad if it were not true? Please cite me one example in which an American government official has admitted to something bad which didn't actually happen. Ever. Concerning anything. Tom

To: Carolyn who wrote (5040)	9/23/2001 8:25:09 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

The US needs to get its act together. In the case of Saddam invading Kuwait, the US had to build a coalition to support their acts since the US was not attacked in any way. In the case of the WTC, the US was attacked directly. They tried to hit the White House, the Capitol, the very heart of our democratic principles we stand for. And now we have the US talking to the terrorist governments of Pakistan and other nations trying to build a coalition. For what? Here we have people flying the flag, yelling "patriotism" from their rooftops. And then we have a vast majority of the business folks who are afraid to fly. Isn't this what the terrorists want to happen? Let us make sure that the flags we are flying are the Stars and Stripes and not a flag of surrender.

To: Carolyn who wrote (5040)	9/23/2001 8:35:44 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 27666

At Fort Benning is the Army 'School of the Americas' - soaw.org 'On January 17, 2001 the SOA was replaced by the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC). ' Attitude change, or just a name change - remains to be seen

To: Carolyn who wrote (5040)	9/23/2001 11:16:19 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 27666

This is what I believe the facts are. On June 23, 1985, Sikh terrorists blew up an Air India plane killing 329 people (the plane was blown up near Ireland and apparently contained mostly Canadians). One of the Sikh terrorists who blew up the plane had attended a private para-military training camp run by a private citizen named Frank Camper in Alabama. I don't think he was trained how to blow up planes there though - I think the training was more of the boot camp - basic military type. The government had nothing to do with supporting or training the terrorists other than letting the private camp exist. I suspect Camper himself didn't know that one of his students would go on to commit a terrorist act. Leftist propagandists of the Chomsky/Thomas M. variety seize on this incident to falsely charge America with being the moral equivalent of the Osama bin Laden's of the world. They are motivated by a severe anti-American animus. Lord knows why. You might as well try to blame the WTC destruction on America because after all some of the hijacker/terrorists received flight training from private flight schools here.

To: Carolyn who wrote (5040)	10/2/2001 1:44:59 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

<<< A particular obscenity crying out for elimination is the US Army's School of the Americas, founded in Panama in 1946 and moved to Fort Benning, Georgia, in 1984 after Panamanian President Jorge Illueca called it "the biggest base for destabilization in Latin America" and evicted it. Its curriculum includes counterinsurgency, military intelligence, interrogation techniques, sniper fire, infantry and commando tactics, psychological warfare and jungle operations. Although a few members of Congress have long tried to shut it down, the Pentagon and the White House have always found ways to keep it in the budget. In May 2000 the Clinton Administration sought to provide new camouflage for the school by renaming it the "Defense Institute for Hemispheric Security Cooperation" and transferring authority over it from the Army Department to the Defense Department. The school has trained more than 60,000 military and police officers from Latin American and Caribbean countries. Among SOA's most illustrious graduates are the dictators Manuel Noriega (now serving a forty-year sentence in an American jail for drug trafficking) and Omar Torrijos of Panama; Guillermo Rodrigues of Ecuador; Juan Velasco Alvarado of Peru; Leopoldo Galtieri, former head of Argentina's junta; and Hugo Banzer Suarez of Bolivia. More recently, Peru's Vladimiro Montesinos, SOA class of 1965, surfaced as a CIA asset and former President Alberto Fujimori's closest adviser. >>> thenation.com