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To: Berney who wrote (10452)	9/24/2001 12:57:58 AM
From: MonsieurGonzo	Respond to of 11051

TB> "laughing at folks saying we are going to crash... ...Ugh We Did ! " Heheheheh... yeah, I know what you mean, Dude. Last time we were in an hysteric market, um ~ '98, T/A was no good and the problem was liquidity, rather than earnings, iirc. The system (uh, 'orderly market') felt "broken" then but, a big dose o' liquidity, couple o' big hedge fund bailouts ~ restored confidence, got things back on track. This time around we are literally impacted with liquidity ~ everybody's hoarding cash, no one wants to buy anything, retail all the way to capital equipment. I've never seen Americans so fearful - people are dumping assets out here: houses, cars, clothing, etc. There's "For Sale" signs all over San Francisco now ~ and believe me, Dude ~ that is an unusual sight in The City. You know we wire-transferred what, ~$60B USD over to the ECB to swap for / prop up and stabilize euros:dollars. otoh, if it's this cold over here, American demand for EuroLand's products must be absolutely frozen! This is damn important because, the Continent doesn't really have a "domestic/consumer" economy as we think of it... ...only for staples, really; they are entirely dependent upon their export trade. iow, I don't think ~$60B is gonna be enough, the Euro's gotta collapse way on down there (3~4 DEM:USD ?) before stuff like Audis or Armanis look "properly priced" to Yanks unwilling to spend (?) I dunno, just musing ~~~~ man, at this cocktail party last night, one of the most disturbing things was listening to the small-medium businessmen talking about, "customers have just stopped coming in ~ I've never seen anything like this ". And then a few minutes later, "I've gotta lay people off, an' it's tearin' me up inside..." "...do it quick," says another, "so they can get another job, maybe something secure, with the government or something ~ before Christmas..." "...by Christmas, it'll be a f_____ mess out there" :-/ -Steve

To: Berney who wrote (10452)	9/24/2001 9:52:51 AM
From: Trading Machine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11051

Berney, I was just wondering if you should caveat your magic list, which is predicated on estimated earnings per share, that the underlying assumptions (i.e., eeps) may be misleading since some of the companies publish numbers that are false and misleading. For instance, BA must be suspect! The position of Home Security Czar would be unnecessary if the agencies he is to try and control would share information now. Since they DON'T, I fail to see how the Govenor is going to make them. BTW, the energy czar didn't work, nor did the drug czar, so why should we suspect this one would. It is a ruse to make the public feel better, not BE better! Form over Function! Your GE is looking decidely better, clumb back up over 31. gggg And the market is "ripping and snorting"! ggg CU Remember 9/11/01 Paul K. BTW, Dubah says the legal war is being won! We indicted osama!!!! Ain't that GREAT!?! we win! Sec Powell was quick to add that he has been under indictment since the embassy bombings. Looks like Dubah is still stumbling along.