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To: Dan3 who wrote (56143)9/23/2001 10:34:44 PM
From: wanna_bmwRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Dan, Re: "AMD puts it this way: X86-64 supports Windows XP. And all the applications that Windows XP runs."

In 32-bit mode, yes. But there is no support for 64-bit extensions, or 64-bit addressing support for x86-64 in Windows XP. Nor has there been announced any such support.

"Intel demands that everyone else do a lot of difficult, risky, recoding just to get back to where they started."

What risk? These applications are all validated and tested before they launch. There should be no more risk than programming for any other architecture.

As for the difficulty in coding, like all new instruction sets, there is probably a little low level coding required to get fast and stable code at this stage of development. But like all other instruction sets, this will eventually get to the point where the coding is 100% high level, such as C++, while the compiler does all the work. If they aren't there already, they soon will be.

But to be sure, AMD's system, like you said, still offers performance under 32-bit, which is a good selling point. But if they want to sell the 64-bit aspect, there has to be software support, and right now, there isn't any. It's as simple as that. Yes, Intel's timing has come at a point where fewer developers want to take the time to code for a brand new instruction set, but if you check out the press releases to many popular software developers, many have committed to this kind of support, anyway. These same developers have not committed support to x86-64. If this doesn't change, AMD is left with a glorified 32-bit processor, which will suffice for the desktop market, but it won't penetrate the enterprise.

wanna_bmw



To: Dan3 who wrote (56143)9/24/2001 1:32:53 AM
From: TenchusatsuRespond to of 275872
 
Dan, <X86-64 supports Windows XP>

Not in 64-bit mode. That requires a new OS.

But I'm sure absolutely no one wants 64-bit support until an x86-64 OS is released.

Tenchusatsu