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To: Dayuhan who wrote (1206)9/24/2001 11:35:18 AM
From: epsteinbd  Respond to of 281500
 
Right you are, Steven Rogers comparing the effect of J. Wayne versus Baywatchers on the Mullah.

The psychological impact of Baywatchers on the Arab youth had a devastating effect as it shows them the exact life they want ; and for the young arabs already living abroad its even worse as the pass by our your ladies walking down the street with their anatomical cloths, showing how desirable they are, while their eyes never bother to look at those guys. Then it is kind of easy for their Mullah to sell their version of " our paradise is the only one you'll get".

As we won't order out cuties to indulge into "humanitarian activities", whatever happens, this primitive equation shall not change.

Epsteinbd



To: Dayuhan who wrote (1206)9/24/2001 12:56:37 PM
From: SirRealist  Respond to of 281500
 
Wow! Steven, that was exceptional and insightful. I'd say that even the mullahs are not completely aware of what drives their motivation to hate us so; they repress even themselves.

But your claim that ours is the only nation guaranteeing a right to pursue happiness is a part of our creed that gets overlooked by scholars. Yet, compared to other declarations, constitutions and such, in other free counries, that phrase is unique.

( Now I'll lie awake wondering if Jefferson was psychic, and dreamt of Pamela Anderson when the words were writ large <gg> )

Thanks for a great thought.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (1206)9/24/2001 1:03:31 PM
From: DOUG H  Respond to of 281500
 
That is a good piece Steve. TV, Internet, and books are the best weapons we have. My neighbor escaped from Iran in 86 and recently told me how amazed he was at the disconnect between what he had been told and what he saw in regards to this country.

He still works to spread the word inside Iran.

OTOT***

Thanks Michael, a friend in the security business passed that along to me. I thought other here might find it useful as I was not aware of this scam.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (1206)9/24/2001 3:07:23 PM
From: Alan Brezin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Steven- I think you have hit on the real essence of the conflict. The best weapon we could deploy via airdrop, then, would be millions of Penthouse and Playboy mags transcribed in Arabic with accompanying propaganda about how our system rewards young men with such women and material goods in this life.

alanib



To: Dayuhan who wrote (1206)11/11/2001 4:09:36 AM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
We terrify the mullahs because we have written medieval superstition out of our public lives, and we have flourished doing it. Our fundamentalist warriors are reduced to spasmodic bible-beating in the dessicated corners of Internet message boards, their leaders to barfing hysterical inanities on trailer trash TV. They are devoid of influence, fossilized relics of another age. The mullahs know how seductive our message is, and how easily and quickly they could be reduced to that same level.

You know , when my father was stationed in Leyte in the Phillipines towards the end WWII , there were still die-hard Japonese soldiers they had to capture and get down out of the hills ...and convince them hostilities were
now at an end .

Funny thing ...someone had procurred an Ice-cream machine
thru a bribe of a case of beer from some supply sargent ,
and when they would capture these soldiers they would
tell them the "great War" was over ...and give them
an ice cream cone to eat . <G>

For the cost of one bombing raid now , after the Taliban
and Has'n Bin Laid is neutralized , we could build
one large community swimming pool in Kabul , and an
equivelent recreation center ...perhaps a large Ice
Skating Rink where even the girls could go...maybe some
skateboarding facilities for the male youth where they
could trade in their AK47's for skateboards , and learn to
do fly-moves on skatboards for the glory
of Allah.<GG>

Skateboards are cheap....all they need is a smooth surface.

Maybe even help the Afghans set up a small Olympic team
eventually , and see sublimated that warrior spirit into
sport-competition....give their men and women a chance to
co-mingle with other dedicated atheletes and other great
young people from around the world .

The Turks do quite well in wrestling , and are ferocious
competitors ...also in weightlifting .Something , anything
to pull these people out of the dark caves their
puritanical fascist ignorant Mud~yas have
condemned them too.

Maybe even build them a Foster's Freeze or Baskin Robbins
or two, LOL!

All human primates love ice-cream...I would imagine Allah
does to.

;-)

regards

Mars

PS: Of course all this after they have their basic
infrastructures , houses and hospitals restored , some schools and
places of worship too . But the look on those Japonese
soldier's faces when they were given those ice~cream
cones , back on the island of Leyte 55 yrs ago....and
they were told the great War was over ....

My father has never forgotten...