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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (4376)	9/24/2001 1:48:36 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 23908

We've all heard about the Balfour Declaraion. But the British appeased the Arabs all through the 30's and 40's, restricting and then cutting off Jewish emigration at the very time it might have saved millions of lives, while winking at a very large illegal Arab immigration, drawn by the Zionist economic development. They continually reacted to Arab terrorism ordered by the Mufti with appeasement. For example, their reaction to the slaughter of about 80 of the unarmed Jews of Hebron was to deport the survivors to Jerusalem...the Jews had lived in Hebron for thousands of years.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (4376)	9/24/2001 2:02:52 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Of course the British favored the Arabs... They KNEW what side their bread was buttered on (the Suez Canal, and various oil interests they were developing). In fact, oil interests were one of the predominant reasons the US hesitated in providing support to Israel until the Yom Kippur war of 1973. No one wanted to offend the Arabs and risk having their investments nationalized by alienating them with overt support of the Israeli Jews. Had it not been for the overt support of Winston Churchill, it's unlikely that the Jews would have received a proper hearing as to why THEY deserved a decent cut out of the Ottoman Empire. And you can point out the Balfour declaration all you want.. But DO NOT OMIT THE FACT that EVERY ARAB NATION IN THE REGION WAS CREATED ARTIFICIALLY, DISPLACING NATIVE POPULATIONS OR PLACING THEM UNDER THE CONTROL OF REGIMES INSTALLED BY THE BRITISH. And DO NOT OMIT the fact that the British GAVE what was supposed to be the original Palestinian partition to Jordan, in order to curry the favor of King Abdullah and his Hashemite clan. The West Bank was originally supposed to be given to the Jews as THEIR reward for supporting the British against the Ottoman Turks. So forget about the Balfour Declaration... Look at all the OTHER actions by the British in subjugating vast numbers of people under their "favorite" Arab leaders.. Look at the DeBunsen Report, Hussein-McMahon Correspondence, and the Sykes-Picot Agreements. The Coptic Christians in the upper nile were not provided their own homeland, despite their history being traced by for thousands of years. The Shiite Arabs in Southern Iraq were not provided a homeland... The Kurds were not provided a homeland... In fact, a WHOLE number of various tribes and nationalities were SCREWED by the manner in which the British arbitrarily set borders. So why the hell do people like yourself believe the Palestinians are so "special" with regard to their "grievances"?? No one wants to cast blame upon Jordan which occupied AND ANNEXED the West Bank (which became the "new" and smaller Palestinian homeland after the British reneged on their promise to give it to the Jews)..... Jordan RAPED the West Bank economy during its occupation, treating it like a colony. In fact, at one point the west bank constituted 40% of Jordan's GDP... So face some facts here... Land was confiscated and doled out arbitrarily all over the Middle East, to those who would support the British. And you're quite wrong about 90% of Israeli land being confiscated to create Israel. It was previously known as the Yishuv Here's a good link I found in referencing my answer to you: umich.edu I suggest you study it and see all of the other people subjugated under arbitrary rule of certain tribes and clans. Hawkmoon

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (4376)	9/24/2001 2:12:16 PM
From: average joe	Respond to of 23908

If you really belive start with the old testament, or better yet read these words of wisdom before you start spewing psycho-babble. gos.sbc.edu The Arabs at all times were nomads.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (4376)	9/24/2001 3:25:46 PM
From: Paul Berliner	Respond to of 23908

Emile, I see you havn't changed in 2 years, you sick f-ck. If you and your anti-freedom brood had the balls to stand up to the nazi's while my relatives were getting gassed, we would never have left Europe and settled Israel. Blame yourself. BTW, we fought for the land and won it - from Jordan. You are extremely educated and obviously know that Palestinians are Jordanian by heritage. The State of Israel is on land won back from Jordan. Period. If the U.S. 'stole' land from the indians, and you are so unhappy, why don't you leave and go live in Hamburgh or Bratislava where you may be more comfortable?