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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jlallen who wrote (17176)	9/25/2001 8:58:44 AM
From: Oral Roberts	Respond to of 59480

It's taken me awhile to keep it down also. I think her national aspirations have been crushed and that was her problem the other night. I would hope that New Yorkers would understand that the bitch was only using them for her run at a national platform and send her ass packing when her term is up. We could only hope to be so lucky.

To: jlallen who wrote (17176)	9/25/2001 9:34:51 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 59480

Agree with you on that! But here is a wonderful WSJ article...."The Tree of Liberty" The Tree of Liberty Jefferson was right: It must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. FROM THE HEARTLAND BY THOMAS J. BRAY Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:01 a.m. BOZEMAN, Mont.--Driving across the parched Montana plains on a back road last week, we spied a ranch house in the distance that stood starkly against the rolling landscape. A lone tree--nearly dead, judging from the lack of foliage--stood on a small rise not far away. On its top branches, an American flag stood straight out in the steady wind. Somebody had to work hard to get that flag up the tree. Hardly anyone is likely to see it along such a remote stretch of road. That made it all the more majestic: Americans doing something from the heart to express their patriotism and grief, whether or not it would be widely noted or long remembered. A lot of things have come into perspective in the last two weeks. Who cares now about watching the ersatz adventure of "Survivor"? Who is consumed by debates over prescription drugs or campaign-finance laws? I take a brother-in-law for a long-planned fishing expedition on the Yellowstone River, hoping for a sense of escape. But all the while I am thinking: How weird is this? The president's speech, a group of us at dinner agree, was magnificently delivered and almost perfectly expressed the feelings of the moment. But none of us can quite see what will be done. The enemy is elusive and low-tech. We are big and high-tech. There is foreboding about what is to come. Yet we all agree that when somebody kills 6,000 people in cold blood on American soil, America must respond. One would hope for an effective response, but the political reality is that we must show the world we won't fold up like a cheap suit. We are going to hit--and the only requirement is that the target be suitable to the interests of the nation, not that its connection to the suicide attack be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Mr. Bush said we have seen their type before: "They're the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power, they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way to where it ends in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies." Though there may be military action, Mr. Bush's statement implies that armed force will be only part of the equation. More important may be a variant of the containment strategy that brought down communism: apply pressure and then wait for the terror network to lose its sense of zeal. The lie that is Islamic terrorism will perhaps eventually implode under the stress of internal contradictions. The terrorists may believe that they will be the ones to apply the pressure, causing America to fold and retreat behind its borders. But the message from across America--and from our allies as well--is that freedom is tougher, more durable and smarter than the terrorists think. There will be the usual amount of stumbling about. There will be casualties. But that flag in the tree had a message: We stand for something--and they don't. Everything has changed, it is said. Well, yes and no. We have seen up close what real disaster and real grief are. We have lost our sense of continental immunity, possibly forever. War is no longer something that takes place far away. We now have an Office of Homeland Defense, which may be necessary but whose mission will no doubt begin to creep as soon as it's up and running. But America is founded on truths about human nature that give us supreme strength in times of crisis. Terrorism is the strategy of those who are physically and morally weak. It may be utopian to think terrorism can be eradicated--or as President Bush stated, consigned to an unmarked grave--given the state of the world. But there is every reason to think that time is on the side of freedom, not of "values" that give their adherents only the capacity to destroy. Mr. Bray is a staff columnist at the Detroit News. His OpinionJournal.com column appears Tuesdays. Copyright © 2001 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. opinionjournal.com