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To: kash johal who wrote (56295)	9/25/2001 1:32:31 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 275872

RE:"This product doesnt fit a current market" It appears to fit the mid to low end perfectly? Why do you say there is no market? The weak link in the whole equation is that the A4 won't scale with the P4... Jim

To: kash johal who wrote (56295)	9/25/2001 7:11:35 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Kash: Look the facts are clear. This product doesnt fit a current market. Hell it may be GREAT for iU mini rack servers with powernow. It may make a great TOASTER. Who cares...no to small market.....no volume. I've said all along that NVIDIA is testing new ground here; their product is aimed at a space that hasn't been exposed to integrated graphics previously (and then there's the integrated high-quality sound, which is also a first). Just because it doesn't fit into an existing "slot" (market-wise) doesn't mean volumes will be low. Personally, I think it just might prove to be a huge hit. A lot of folks are looking at the $200-$400 graphics cards out there today and thinking "I don't really need this" and seeing little alternative unless they want piss-poor graphics by way of the current crop of integrated graphics. Taking my self as an example (always dangerous, I know), my brother asked me what computer he should buy and if there was something like the nForce 420 out there today, that's exactly what I would recommend to him. As it is, I will have to recommend a SiS735-based board (the ECS K7S5A), a GeForce2MXXXXX and a Creative Labs SBLive! Value (Bulk). Total price here in Copenhagen: $237 ($99, $89 and $49 for the three components, respectively). An MX200 wouldn't be much cheaper, so there's little reason not to go with the MX400. In order for nForce to be a good deal, all it would have to do it beat the above. If price is close, I would almost certainly go with the nForce (providing it proved to be stable), since there is much less hassle if everything is integrated. In terms of shipping costs, the single box of an integrated motherboard would be much cheaper as well ;-). (note: both the SiS735 and the nForce have integrated 10/100 mbps NIC) -fyo