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To: Bilow who wrote (4636)	9/25/2001 5:43:13 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 23908

f Israel were looking to the future of 50 years from now, they'd be figuring out how to do a graceful exit from power. The South Africans managed to pull it off. I suppose the world was surprised when the South African situation went as well as it did. Even if you include the West Bank and Gaza (and I'm convinced they will be part of a Palestinian state at some point) and project out the greater Arab growth rate for 50 years (and its hardly certain that this greater rate will continue for that long of period) Israeli Jews would still be a much larger % of the population then South African whites are. Tim

To: Bilow who wrote (4636)	9/25/2001 6:03:17 PM
From: epsteinbd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

I was surprised too, for the benefit of South Africa. However, when Newsweek reported that on average there were a hundred white farmers owners killed every years (also as to scare the others), I was surprised that our fast news coverage never did not feed us with each event. As for the PA/IS conflict, I think it is just a question of time, and in a few months, less than a year, peace will be a reality. The real problem will be the economical future of the Palestinians. Unless they manage to turn Gaza into a new Hong Kong,( 10 to 20 years at best), they will continue to feel desperate and injustely treated as compared to the fate fo the Jews. And who is going to help them financially to hit the future. They'll need many billions $ and thousands skilled teachers. The Saudis won't contribute much, nor the Kowetis, as they would have lost the incentive. While Saddam only financed the life insurance part of the kamikaze. So there are still big problems ahead.

To: Bilow who wrote (4636)	9/25/2001 8:48:01 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

The South Africans managed to pull it off. I suppose the world was surprised when the South African situation went as well as it did. The South Africans have a statesman named Nelson Mandela. To put it mildly, Yassir Arafat is no Nelson Mandela. The white South Africans were persuaded (correctly, as it turns out), that the ANC was more interested in equality and prosperity than revenge and slaughter. When Israel listens to the teachings of the PA, what message does it get? Also, unlike Israel, South Africa was not surrounded by neighbors with a vested interest in the continuation of the conflict. Nevertheless, if the Palestinians ever acquire a stateman who is more interested in prosperity than destroying Israel, they will get a state. Yassir Arafat would be president of a state right now, corrupt terrorist thug that he is, if he had been willing to settle for 98% of the territories and a negotiated schedule for refugee return. But, as Shlomo Ben-Ami says, he is a creature of the conflict and he could not stand up and say 'the conflict is over' unless Israel breaks her neck. He never made a proposal in the negotiations. He just said no.