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To: GVTucker who wrote (144218)	9/27/2001 7:46:00 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

GV, re: Political Correctness crosses the line when it causes censorship. Yes, the intent is noble in that it attempts to throw out the bad and keep the good. The problem is that you're dependent upon the people in charge to define bad and good. If you don't agree with their definition, you're out of luck. I'm confused. Who defines what is "politically correct"? Is there an official standards organization? John

To: GVTucker who wrote (144218)	9/27/2001 8:08:12 AM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 186894

GV, RE: "Political Correctness crosses the line when it causes censorship." Rude sexist comments cross the line when it causes censorship of women. When I looked at your University link, they defined Political Correctness as something which means you can't intentionally harass and hurt someone. For example, if a male teacher repeatedly told one of his female students that she looks just like Clinton's "Monica" and did this over and over again, one could imagine the impact to this female student's ability to get questions answered that are relevant to the class. Political correctness as defined there, sounded like common sense. Unfortunately, it only takes a few bad apples to force a definition as basic as this onto all of us. Regards, Amy J

To: GVTucker who wrote (144218)	9/27/2001 10:45:02 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

GVTucker, <<<I don't see where you addressed Tenchusatsu's point at all. Free speech has nothing to do with the separation of Church and State.>>> Free Speech is a concept that is easy to understand but almost impossible to put into practice. The concept of a separation of Church and State alleviates some of the Freedom of Speech issues by providing a place and means for you to talk all you want about your favorite topic, pray to your God, and meditate without tripping over all those that may disagree in State supported institutions and facilities. Until we overcome the tendency of wanting to kill each over differences on the definition of God, that will have to do. <<<Political Correctness crosses the line when it causes censorship. Yes, the intent is noble in that it attempts to throw out the bad and keep the good. The problem is that you're dependent upon the people in charge to define bad and good. If you don't agree with their definition, you're out of luck. >>> We are protected by law on some fundamental levels, beyond that we establish codes of conduct, in some form or other, to curb excesses. In a University setting, students are being taught by individuals given that responsibility through our democratic process. No one tells a University President what to think and what to say and in pretty much the same way faculty and school administrators have similar freedoms. But in our democratic form of society, there are plenty of checks and blances. Everyone has some someone to answer to and ultimately, the will of the people will prevail. The biggest threat to our society come from those that try to hide the truth to manipulate society. Those are the people that don't really believe that an open society can ultimately arrive at the truth. A code of conduct is not put into place in an attempt to hide the truth. Mary