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To: Elmer who wrote (56542)	9/27/2001 1:19:27 PM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Elmer D1C is 130nm. And yes qualified production is near. but I guess near depends on your frame of reference. But as you know most fab employee's don't know in great detail whether the wafers they are processing are qualified yet. And the original discussion of employee's moving from Fab15 to D1C is true. M. P.S. I'm not going to waste my breath on Wanna, as he doesn't know how to read.

To: Elmer who wrote (56542)	9/27/2001 1:28:07 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 275872

Elmer, Re: "Not commenting on whether or not it's true, but couldn't it be in production @.13u and still be several months from Northwood introduction? Fab throughput, packaging and test, inventory buildup for intro, all these take time. In fact, schedules seem to call for a Northwood intro in Q4. If true they must be in production somewhere. Are you having more trouble with the 12" or the .13u P4?" Like some others, you seem to think that I have detailed inside info on this, but I don't. Intel once had an open house of their new fab, and I went there. They gave a tour of the windows looking inward, and pointed out the machinery, etc. You could see a lot of the process, without Intel running the risk of some person contaminating the fab itself. They also played a movie and put on a presentation of the new technology. So I know as much as I saw there, and that was earlier in the summer. Intel may be producing Northwood right now for a Q4 intro, but since D1C is a 12 inch wafer plant, I doubt they would be coming from there. Fab20, which happens to be a production fab at the same site, produces 200mm wafers at .13u, and that may be producing Northwood chips right now. Any guesses at this point, though, are just speculation. According to articles I've read, 300mm wafers is a technology that will ramp in 2002, at the very least 3 months from now (but most probably 6 months from now). Therefore, I would consider D1C to still be a development fab. Intel is still developing their 12 inch wafer technology, and I have good reason to believe so, until I see press releases to the contrary. Milo can still disagree and point out his first hand expertise, but I am not willing to take his word for it. He seems to be changing his story. Originally, he said that his knowledge was second hand. Message 16415021 wanna_bmw