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To: chalu2 who wrote (4873)	9/27/2001 4:33:21 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

The Christian and Muslim persecutions were a blessing for the Zionists to exploit. It was their intention all along to colonize Palestine and form a "Jewish" State. The fleeing victims of Hitler and Company should have been sent to Palestine or elsewhere, but to use their suffering as a pretext for forming a colony is not moral. If there was to be a "Jewish" State, that state should have been formed in Poland, or Germany. Why should the Arab peoples and many Jewish Palestinians have to suffer for what the Europeans did? Much anti-semitism is generated or exaggerated for political and economic gain, such as justifying the State of Israel. That is not to say there isn't any, but it is not as widespread as pro-Zionists spend barrels of ink writing about and flooding the "academic", "artistic", and "historical" records. Zionist genocide...Israel is working on that as we speak. Wouldn't they love to stuff people like me in an oven?

To: chalu2 who wrote (4873)	9/27/2001 5:23:32 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 23908

Ideological Nazis were not Christians. Germany is a country inhabited by Christians, and many Nazis were brought up Christian, but Hitler and his followers looked down on Christianity as a Jewish religion. They knew that most Germans were Christians so they didn't make a big deal about it. Ideological Nazis were not religious at all. Many people joined the Nazi party after Hitler took power without becoming ideological Nazis. What resistance to Hitler there was in Germany was mostly among Christians, e.g., the White Rose, and the Kreisau Circle. You left out some genocides - Stalin's genocide of the Kulaks in the Ukraine, Mao's genocide in China, and the Hutus killing the Tutsis in Rwanda. None motivated by religion. Hitler killed millions of people besides Jews - Poles, Russians, gypsies, homosexuals, communists, trade unionists, retarded children. Not that I want to minimize what happened to the Jews.

To: chalu2 who wrote (4873)	9/27/2001 6:58:21 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Were the Jews guilty of genocide in the 20th century? Winston Churchill certainly thought they were! You have a clever way of playing down or avoiding the Jewish crime of "genocide" and at the same time you exaggerate and fabricate Christian and Moslem genocide. This is not to deny that horrible crimes have been committed by those who call themselves Christians or Moslem. When you equate Nazism with Christian, you are deliberately slandering Christ, the Christian people and the Christian religion. This has, according to the New Testament, been a standard Jewish practice since the first century.(the standard principles of slander, violence and vilification practiced by the Jewish leaders against Christians in the first century are identical to the technique you employ today) You said: "Talk of genocide, millions of innocents killed?--there were at least three in the 20th century--one Christian (the Nazis); one Muslim (the Armenians); one Communistic (the Cambodians, who aren't really dead according to some early Chomsky articles). Zionist genocides? That's neo-nazi proganda." Not quite! That's the revisionist type of Jewish historiography that fanatic Zionists and fundamentalist Jews would like perpetuate. Let us look at the grand daddy of genocidal activites committed, according to Churchill, by Jews during the 20th century. The Communist Revolution in Russia was ultimately responsible for the murder of between 20 and 30 million Christians. Churchill concluded that "the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders.. Did you get that? corax.org "Terrorist Jews. There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd) or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing."