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To: alan w who wrote (32865)	9/27/2001 11:44:51 PM
From: Mitch Blevins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

>>So, which is it Mitch? If it was "predicted" after the fact, wouldn't they have seen the intact west wall.<< What I presented were actually two separate possible explanations of the prophesy of the destruction of the temple that don't require super-magical powers. Having happened almost 2000 years ago, I'm not in a position to be able to say what happened. One explanation is that the prophesies were really post-dated, since the gospels were not written until after the fact. Actually, Mark could have been written from the late sixties up to the early seventies, so it is possible that (but not necessarily true) that this was written prior to the fall of the temple. The second explanation could account for this. Temple destruction prophesies were not unique to Jesus, and in fact were expected of a messiah, which is what it seems that Jesus was claiming to be (a Jewish messiah, not the god/man/pagan version of Paul). But we see from the intact west wall that even if Jesus predicted the fall of the temple, he didn't quite get it right. We would expect a super-magical explanation to accurately represent what was going to happen. And of course, we don't have to limit ourselves to either/or. Since the gospels were likely written far from Jerusalem, the authors of the gospels did not necessarily know that the west wall was still standing. The stories of the destruction of the temple that reached the gospel writers did not necessarily include the detail of a still-intact west wall. This would lead to a post-facto prophesy that was wrong in spite of that fact.