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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: gao seng who wrote (30042)9/28/2001 12:41:55 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
consciousness.arizona.edu looks like Penrose to me. I think his theory is overly mystical. A counterpoint:

William H. Calvin's dander is up, albeit in a gentlemanly fashion. An authority in the field of neurophysiology for some 30 years, he's dismayed that inventive upstarts (most notably the physicist Roger Penrose, author of ''The Emperor's New Mind'' and ''Shadows of the Mind'') are encroaching on his territory. Why do physicists feel the need, he asks, to apply the tools of their trade to the study of the human intellect? These ''consciousness physicists,'' as Mr. Calvin calls them, use ''mathematical concepts to dazzle rather than enlighten. . . . Such theorists usually avoid the word 'spirit' and say something about quantum fields. . . . All that the consciousness physicists have accomplished is the replacement of one mystery by another.''

(from The Mechanics of the Soul
Date: November 17, 1996, Late Edition - Final
Byline: By Marcia Bartusiak
Review of How Brains Think
Evolving Intelligence, Then and Now.
By William H. Calvin.
link that might work : search.nytimes.com )

Penrose could be right, it just doesn't seem to be a particularly useful theory beyond the philosophical level.