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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Win Smith who wrote (30045)	9/28/2001 12:47:31 PM
From: gao seng	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I find it perplexing that people who claim to be scientists can so easily dismiss mathematical equations as being meaningless. Here is some more mind boggling math that can be tossed away simply because it doesn't jive with mainstream scientific thought: PROBLEMS IN THE LENGTH OF TIME REQUIRED Even though mutations are rare and harmful, and even though natural selection would most likely breed out a mutant from the strain, it seems quite plausible to laymen that given enough time anything, even evolution, can happen. Huxley expains: "All living things are equally old- they can all trace their ancestry back some 2,000 million years. With that length of time available, liitle adjustments can easily be made to add up to miraculous adaptions; and the slight shifts of gene frequency between one generation and the next can be multiplied to produce radical improvements and totally new kinds of creatures" (Evolution in Action, p.41) But such a claim can be challenged by putting it to the test. "The odds are 10 to the 161th power to 1 that not one usable protein would have been produced by chance in all the history of the earth, using all the appropriate atoms on earth at the fantastic rate described. This is a figure containing 161 zereos. It might be well to recall that even if one molecule WERE obtained, it would not help at all in arranging the second protein molecule unless there existed an accurate duplication process. Even if there were such a process, there are many other KINDS of proteins needed before there can be LIVING ORGANISM. In Morowitz's minimal cell, the 239 protein molecules required include AT LEAST 124 DIFFERENT protein species" (James F. Coppedge, Evolution: Possible or Impossible? [Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1973], pp.109-110). Others have arrived at similar conclusions about the probability of forming one protein molecule by chance. French scientist Lecomte du Nouy said it is 1 chance out of 10 to the 243rd power. Swiss mathematician Charles E. Guye calculated it as 1 chance out of 10 to the 160th power. Murray Eden of MIT and Marcel Schultzenberger of University of Paris both concluded that their digital computers showed that evolution was impossibled (Mathematical Challenges to the New-Darwinian Interpretaion of Evolution, by P.S. Moorhead and M.M. Kaplan [Philadelphia; Wistar Institute Press, 1967], and du Nuoy, Human Destiny [London: Longmans, Green and Co., 1947], p.34) While probability is expressed by a fraction (e.g., 1 in 5 million times), and when the fraction is as small as these are for the chance production of a protein molecule, then the mathematician would declare the probability of its happening is zero. Those who are evolutionists would likely point out that there still exists a chance, however infinitesimal, of evolution happening because of the billions of years involved. However, even billions of years will not reduce the probability enough to put in the range of reasonable possibilty. Davidheiser tested the well-known statement that if a million monkeys were permitted to strike the keys of a million typewriters for a million years, they might by chance type a copy of a Shakespearean play. Setting up a controlled experiment with only captial letters, continuous typing at a uniform rate of speed, and requiring only the first verse of Genesis, he shows that a million monkeys would never type Genesis 1:1 let alone a Shakespearean play in billions of years. (Evolution and Christian Faith, pp. 362-363). Even to type the first line of Hamlet ("Ber: Who's There?") would require on the average of a number of repeated experiments 284 trillion years, a period considearably longer than it took evolution to do all it supposedly did. The obvious conclusion of this is simply that it requires an incredible amount of faith to believe that evolution could have caused by chance all life that ever did or does now exist.