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To: Saturn V who wrote (144351)	9/28/2001 1:37:17 PM
From: tcmay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Saturn, I call them as I see them "Tim, whatever you are saying is factually correct. "The black leadership is also guilty of inaction on this issue. I would like Jesse Jackson to go around galvanizing the black youth into aspiring into the middle class role models. Long term this is a better strategy, since Affirmative Action should only be a short term action. "This is a touchy issue for everyone, and it should be given a rest. " Nope, that would be over on the "moderated" list, where Mani Ahmadi censors those whose views he doesn't like. Look, I saw this particular Intel thread go "off-topic" several times in recent weeks as persons with only a tenuous grasp of world history and politics nattered on with their sophomoric views on world peace, the need for ending hunger, how violence never accomplishes anything, why speech codes are politically correct, and so on. I didn't start the PC debate. As for Jesse Jackson, this is the bozo who calls New York City "Hymietown," who siphons off money from his supposed charities to pay his whores and mistresses with, and who comes to Silicon Valley to stir up trouble by demanding that Intel and other Valley companies give handouts to residents of East Palo Alto. The fact that anyone, let alone the television and newspaper industry, listens to this guy is a classic display of racism. How? "Yeah, he stole money, he lied, he cheated, he calls Jews "hymies"...but, but...at least he's not as racist as Al Sharpton or Louis Farrakhan, so we give him airtime!" It's time to hold blacks up to normal standards and to tell them to get off their black asses and start _doing_ something besides demanding quotas, minority setasides, more welfare, free crack, and needle exchange programs. (P.S. None of my ancestors owned slaves, none of them were slavers, and none of them benefitted from the slave trade. In fact, most of my ancestors arrived in the U.S. long after slavery ended--the one fourth of my ancestry that didn't arrive in the 1890s-1910s was near Boston, with no slaves and no involvement. Oh, and the mainstays of the slave trade were _other black tribes_ who captured the blacks and transported them to the _Arab_ slave traders up and down the eastern coast of Africa, where the slaves were then transported to places where English ships picked them up. Some Arab countries, notably Sudan and nearby regions, still have slaves. This is what the world should focus on, not the recent spectacle in Durban where a bunch of high-ranking pimps and grifters from Arab and African nations attempted to shake down the U.S. taxpayer for reparations.) --Tim May

To: Saturn V who wrote (144351)	9/28/2001 1:42:21 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

However as pointed out by others, any immigrant is highly driven even to have uprooted himself, and transplanted himself to America. Secondly apart from refugees and illegals, US has selectively picked immigrants who were highly educated. So again the first generation immigrants tend to be highly driven and successful, and those values are easily passed on to the next generation. However the Negro population has a major problem. The family structure and values were destroyed during the days of institutional slavery. These still have not come back completely despite the 150 years of emancipation. What you say is also factually correct, however do we know that this explanation actually accounts for all the differences in outcome? We seem to have made a big commitment here to justify our social engineering when we don't know that our assumptions are correct. Is it so terrible to ask where is the proof that all populations are of equal potential in all fields? We're making that assumption, giving preferential treatment trying to even the score and continually having to go back and make up a new explanation when the outcome doesn't match our models. I see nothing wrong with questioning the model, but of course when you do, the storm troopers and thought police show up enmass. EP

To: Saturn V who wrote (144351)	9/28/2001 3:24:26 PM
From: Gary Gwynn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE:>>>>However the Negro population has a major problem. The family structure and values were destroyed during the days of institutional slavery. These still have not come back completely despite the 150 years of emancipation. <<<< Actually black families were destroyed during the 60's... the 1960's. Black families used 2 be strong & tight knit as were the forcibly segrated black commnunities which used to be vibrant places. A side effect of integration was the destruction of the black family & black community & black mom'n'pop businesses....