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To: ratan lal who wrote (1691)9/28/2001 3:55:43 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
Or is the US govt. supporting anyone, and I do mean ANYONE, who will act to benefit US and US interests AT THAT MOMENT in time?

Yep... sometimes we do... Depending on the balance of power (fear) in a particular region.

Or depending on where these nation fit in the international bi-polar, or multi-polar regional power structures.

The US spent DECADES categorizing the undeveloped world along the lines of the cold war framework of power. If they weren't "with us" they were "with" the communists, or potentially susceptible to their subversion. But the primary focus of the US was still on averting an all-out war in Europe between the USSR and NATO.

This is why such incidents as the coup against Allende in Chile, or other military coups were ignored, if not tolerated. All the US wanted was stability in these peripheral regions so that we wouldn't be required to dilute our focus from the Soviets. At the same time, we were hoping to undermine Soviet influence in the Warsaw Pact and elsewhere, such as Vietnam and Afghanistan.

Is that so bad? Well, it depends upon whether you believe the US possessed the obligation to create democracies in these nations. And it depends upon if you are able to accept that you only have so much influence in these countries anyway, and it's better that you have a authoritarian government (which are generally temporary), or a totalitarian government where oppression is institutionalized throughout the society and economic resources centralized under state control.

In an authoritarian state, you'll have a strong man who may rule the country, but still must enlist the support of the military, business and financial sector in order to rule. He'll eventually die, and someone else will come to power, or a set of laws will be enforced that hold all individuals accountable.

But in a totalitarian state, once you've gone down that road, it's desperately difficult to reform and change economic and political courses.

Should the US have a long-range foreign policy? Sure... That would be nice...

But then it would likely also be considered "meddling" by those we seek to influence with that policy, would it not?

And the US is "loved", by those who come here to live. The millions of people who risk their lives to become US citizens. I can't help it if the rest of the world is so jealous that they don't find themselves on the list of US charitable handouts...

But I've personally seen desperate people praising US military forces who build the schools and roads they need, but can seem to convince their own governments to build.

And if I have my choice, those are the people I'm going to give money and assistance to, not the ones who think that we "owe them" something, or have one hand out and the other one flipping us the bird.

Hawkmoon



To: ratan lal who wrote (1691)9/28/2001 4:34:56 PM
From: Frederick Langford  Respond to of 281500
 
Or is the US govt. supporting anyone, and I do mean ANYONE, who will act to benefit US and US interests AT THAT MOMENT in time?

Oh Yeah, nothing like making some contacts for future biz in Rwanda. You guys slay me...

Fred