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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (144395)	9/28/2001 5:35:01 PM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

But semi...VIA has a P4 license through S3. The VIA P4 DDR chipset has VIA/S3 printed right on it. LOL VIA has a License? Says Who?? You?? VIA?? intel says different. I'm willing to let the courts decide. I saw what happened to the same issue with P3/VIA Licensing. I have no doubt that the same thing will happen with P4. But you didn't address that issue. All you did was criticize intel for asserting their rights. VIA had an opportunity to buy a license, they said they don't need one, intel says they do. Vendors don't have to use i850 or i845, plenty of them (with licenses) are developing (and already selling) their own P4 chipsets. I hope VIA is real happy "giving intel the finger". In the meantime, SIS, and all the other vendors with a P4 License are going to run right past them. Who's really the stupid one here.. Looks to me like VIA. I'm guessing their CEO must have taken management lessons from the Jerry Sanders... "Let's Try And Screw Intel No Matter What" school of management. Brilliant.... :-) Semi

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (144395)	9/28/2001 8:49:16 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Jim, Re: "So mobo manufacturers are OK if they use i850s and i845s (for SDRAM only). Yet if they use the VIA chipset they get sued..." You just don't get it, do you? When Intel sues ECS, they are being consistent with their earlier warning that motherboard manufacturers using unlicensed chipsets would be as liable as the chipset manufacturer themselves. Your personal opinion aside, the fact is that there is a dispute between whether VIA owns or does not own the rights to make Pentium 4 chipsets. By law, they need the rights to certain patents in some way or another. It's as simple as that. You can't really point the finger at Intel for defending their IP, as Semi has said, unless they lose in court. Plus, realize that ECS is really not in a bad position right now, since VIA claimed responsibility for any losses incurred. Therefore, if Intel wins, VIA gets nailed doubly hard. It's starting to look more and more like they should settle this matter ASAP. wanna_bmw

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (144395)	9/28/2001 9:28:09 PM
From: Windsock	Respond to of 186894

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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (144395)	9/28/2001 9:32:11 PM
From: Windsock	Respond to of 186894

Jimbo - Re:"But semi...VIA has a P4 license through S3. The VIA P4 DDR chipset has VIA/S3 printed right on it. LOL" No, Via does not have a P4 license. ROTFLMAO Via just thinks they can steal the technology because they make it in Taiwan where outsiders automatically loose in their Court system. ROTFLMAO Via forgot that their chipsets are used in motherboards that enter countries where Intel has patents. ROTFLMAO Via forgot that they don't have a homeboy advantage in countries outside Taiwan. ROTFLMAO