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To: cosmicforce who wrote (30203)9/29/2001 3:44:47 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Cool.

Yes, lets go to the brain now. The brain is a macroscopic object, it is about 3 pounds or something like that. The basic constituents of the brain are the neurons i.e. the nerve cells. What has been discovered is that inside the neurons there are structures that are called microtubules that have been pushed forward by Dr. Hameroff and Professor Penrose of Oxford. Microtubules can support quantum waves that somehow transfer information. What is happening is that these quantum waves can really suffer spontaneous collapse because of the gravitational effects described before. The final decision of how we are going to react to an external signal, we believe, is due to the gravitationally induced spontaneous collapse of the brain wave function. Of course, because of the probabalistic nature of quantum mechanics, we do not know a priori the decision we are going to take. Of course, it is within some reason, and that's, for instance, how we can explain the origin of the non-deterministic free will. So that means, that in several occasions different people may react differently to the same kind of external stimulus and I think it is a big problem in conventional neuroscience to explain something like indeterminism of the free will. Also, there is another big problem that is called the "binding problem." That means when we see an apple, there are different parts of the brain that give us this mental representation that we see an object like an apple. But the neurons that react to this object are in different parts of the brain.

Invoking Superstring GUT / Quantum gravity theories, which as I understand it aren't totally proven in their native realm of subatomic physics, to explain a hypothetical intracellular mechanism in neurons which is in turn supposed to explain the roots of consciousness is . . . highly speculative. Makes me think of cold fusion and Peter Hagelstein. Has anybody actually done any real experiments with this stuff?