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To: muzosi who wrote (144426)	9/29/2001 11:33:44 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 186894

of course you don't. that is what a racist is supposed to say. there is one statement i like made by a conservative commentator: "the reason white people say that there is no racism in america today is the same as black people say o.j. was innocent: it wouldn't look good". your basic assumption is that the a population has inherently less potential in economic field. your questioning the model reminds me of people questioning the holocaust and the landing on the moon. given overwhelming historical facts you still find the logic to "question" stuff. Muzosi, Just what is a racist? I remember the people of California being called racist because they didn't want to pay for free medical care, free education and free welfare for illegal aliens. If that is your definition of a racist then there's no point discussing the matter with a mind so tightly closed. I will take your accusation in the same light. Regarding the model, the fact that you do your storm trooper thing when someone questions the model is exactly the problem. The model is more important to you than the outcome. You know your model is correct so it can't be questioned. Whenever the input doesn't produce the desired outcome, it must be the wrong input! No one that I know of is questioning historical facts, that's not what the model is based on. The model basically says this, all populations are of equal potential given a level playing field they will achieve more or less equal results. Any unequal results must therefore be the result of unequal opportunities or an unlevel field. We as a society are obligated to tilt the field to any degree necessary to produce the expected outcome and we will then call that the new definition of "level". Implied in this definition is that everything that caused the unlevel field is someone elses fault. This model must not be questioned and to do so is to cause the field to once again become unlevel. Storm troopers will be expected to silence any discussion. I do not accept this model in it's entirety but you seem to imply that any question is proof of racism. This is exactly your problem. What do we owe other people in a civilized society? I think we owe people an equal opportunity but I think you define that as equal outcome. There we disagree. EP