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To: Tom Byron who wrote (77662)9/29/2001 8:10:13 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116779
 
OT. Hi Tom. Read that through a few times, very interesting but it seems to me that the writer assumes that the USA will only use conventional weapons. And also Russia has no great love for terrorist they also have some unconventional
weapons. Very scary situation.
Lorne



To: Tom Byron who wrote (77662)9/30/2001 9:21:20 AM
From: Richnorth  Respond to of 116779
 
Readers rush to lap up chilling prophecy

The prediction of the authors: America would hit a 'once in a century' crisis within the decade

By Louise Branson
STRAITS TIMES UNITED STATES BUREAU

WASHINGTON - Four years ago, two authors published a book called The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy: What Cycles Of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous With Destiny.

It contained the chilling forecast that, based on historical patterns, America would hit a once-in-a-century national crisis within the decade.

Like winter, the crisis - or 'fourth turning' - could not be averted.

It would last 20 years or so and bring hardship and upheaval similar to previous fourth turnings such as the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression and World War II.

And it would begin with a 'sudden spark' to catalyse a crisis mood.

The book didn't get a lot of attention at the time - it's getting plenty now.

Authors Neil Howe and William Strauss have a website -

fourthturning.com -

full of comments now from people who believe 4T, shorthand for fourth turning, is already upon us.

Howe and Strauss have filed their own message.

The Sept 11 attacks, they said, were enough to spark a crisis mood.

But they are not yet sure whether America has entered 4T or is still at the end of its third turning - a time for the unravelling of institutions and old civic orders.

Whatever it may be, 'the catalyst event is only a gateway, a prelude, not the main event,' they say.

'The climax of the fourth turning, the true history-bending moment, remains well in the future, its nature unknowable.'

Are they crazy or prophetic? As sales of their book climb, they are beginning to gain a reputation for being the latter.

Even when the book was first published they had their fans.

Naval war professor David Kaiser, for example, who said that he had finished the book with feelings of terror and excitement and that if its authors were right, their names would go down in history.

A New York Times reviewer, however, said the predictions were as vague as those of fortune cookies.

The authors said they first came up with their theory in 1991 when they identified characteristics of Americans, based on when they were born, for 18 generations.

They perceived a pattern of historical change which emerged every two decades or so.

In line with that theory, the post-World War II years of 1946 to 1964 comprised a first turning of American ascendancy.

The years of 1964 to 1984 marked a time of spiritual revival including the rise of feminism, environmentalism and black power.

A third-turning period of unravelling began in 1984 and the fourth could already be here.

'It's like a winter - it can come early or late, it can be severe or mild but it's going to come. The only way to get to spring is through it,' according to Mr Strauss.