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To: Janice Shell who wrote (25717)	9/30/2001 12:40:13 AM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 26163

lol, sorry, it was one of the Lesser Goons whom I was addressing as "liar".

To: Janice Shell who wrote (25717)	9/30/2001 7:19:32 PM
From: PatiBob	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26163

OH my GOD!

To: Janice Shell who wrote (25717)	9/30/2001 9:20:30 PM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 26163

Sorry I can't agree with your sentiments for Jesse Jackson, but I do see Pugs as an real whacko! That being said, the following URL made my hair stand up! This guy and Pugs could make up some stuff together. They could be a team without peer in paranoid,episodal, drama! maritimes.indymedia.org

To: Janice Shell who wrote (25717)	9/30/2001 9:20:56 PM
From: TideGlider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26163

I do see Pugs as an real whacko! At times I wonder if he understands his own motivations. Clearly they change and they surely can't have a thing to do with success. He seems somehow a guilt ridden individual that lashes out at things and people in what appears to be an attempt to satisfy his grand need for attention and at the same time to inflict upon his parents a sort of revenge for never satifying his deep desire to believe that they loved him. So it manifests itself in a sort of self destructive behavior that has the ancillary affect of destroying others that believe in him. Although he doesn't recognize the fact that he is extraordinarily harmful to those from whom he demands loyalty and respect, he accepts their sacrifice in a confused way as his own. Never cognizant of the fact that his manipulation of those that people would call his friends, ultimately consumes them. In their support of Pugs, they lose their identity and their own motivations and drive. Long obsured by the tragic derailment of their own personalities, they begin to live vicariously through the convoluted rewritten histories and his absurd obsession, the mission to get Moriarity......to late....they will see that Moriarity is indeed Pugs himself......and later yet, Pugs will come to the realization that he is, of all people... Moriarity...