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To: LindyBill who wrote (37)9/30/2001 10:38:45 AM
From: Mathemagician  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 248
 
You know, Math, you and I seem to be "apples and oranges" on how to play this market, and, I think we analyze it, we will find out why.

Judging by your reasons cited below, I would say that the main difference can be summed up as follows: You are day-trading the long-term trend, looking for down days in a bear market, and I am trading the intermediate trend, trying to catch an intermediate correction that may last from a few days to a couple weeks. Sound about right?

To me the real contrast lies not the direction of any particular call (as you point out, that's why we have a market), but in our methodology AFTER we make a call.

For example, suppose we were both trying to catch SEBL going from 14 to 11 (the numbers are easier). Your position (as far as I can tell) would include shorting SEBL at 14 with a stop at 11. Mine would require resistance and an initial stop somewhere around 14. As SEBL moved past 12 I would enter a stop at about 13.25 to lock in a small profit after tax & txns. As SEBL moved below 11 my stop would drop to 12.5, depending on the strength of the support/resistance at 11. A further drop would be allowed to run but followed with stops. Now that's apples and oranges!

By defining a plan and keeping rigid stops, my level of anxiety and danger of acting irrationally based on emotion are almost nil. That's because I decide beforehand when the market proves me wrong. Also my objectively measurable worst case scenario is that I lose $1 per share, ensuring that I am ready to trade again tomorrow. Combining this sort of risk management with appropriate cash management I can be wrong more often than I am right and still be profitable. Just as important, I can be wrong several times in a row before seriously impacting my capital.

The above paragraph is essentially the reason I am so uneasy about your methods. You need only be wrong once to really get hurt. If the market rallies and SEBL ran to 25 in a couple of days I absorb a $1 loss while you are exposed to an $11 loss (more?) and all the associated anxiety.

dM



To: LindyBill who wrote (37)9/30/2001 11:52:27 AM
From: OZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 248
 
The "Spread" Friday on SEBL was 97 cents

What do you mean by that? Surely not the bid/ask spread.

Oz



To: LindyBill who wrote (37)9/30/2001 12:43:53 PM
From: philab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 248
 
Be very cautious . Take a read at this:

Short sellers targeted
House Democrat asks SEC to put a temporary halt on short selling.
cnnfn.cnn.com

If it happens there could be trouble ahead for short positions.
With the recent events its not impossible that the SEC changes some rule forcing short covering and giving a needed boost to the market.

We are living IRRATIONALITY so anything can happen.

BTW nice thread, and good luck.