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To: Noneyet who wrote (5366)	9/30/2001 6:30:50 AM
From: chalu2	Respond to of 23908

>>You had better get to bed or your going to miss Sunday Mass. << Well, believe it or not, I actually can change my mind about things after studying them. You make up your mind about a matter, and then it is unalterable, received gospel. I believe Johnson was responsible, and I explained why I changed my thinking. Not quite like St. Paul on the Road to Damascus, but still a major change in how I looked at things. My view is that Johnson did the same exact thing with the Gulf of Tonkin situation. I am not merely parroting wild conspiracy theories concocted by others, but coming to an independent view of things. You like to be a parrot, and just mouth what others say, that's your choice. To be unable to think for yourself, and view all sides, must be a tough cross to bear. When I was a child, I thought like a child, but to take a mature approach is to put aside childish thinking, and to look at all angles; some may be dead ends, others may lead to epiphanies. I like to take on thorny issues, and apply some hard, critical thinking.

To: Noneyet who wrote (5366)	9/30/2001 6:44:38 AM
From: chalu2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

>>First it was neo nazis US Sailors, then friendly fire, reflagging, the USS Liberty firing on itself ( whoops I forgot the USS Liberty wasn't even there at the time of the attack ), and when all else failed, it was Lyndon Johnson's fault.< As to the specifics of your bizarre statements, you can re-read my old posts till you're blue in the face & not find any reference to the sailors as neo-nazi. Nor did I ever say the boat fired on itself. Nor, did I say that the Liberty was not there at the time of the attack on the Liberty. I think your zealotry, combined with advancing age, are leading you into delusions. But, please, if you can find any of those three charges in my posts, I will surely acknowledge an error. Will you ever acknowledge an error?

To: Noneyet who wrote (5366)	9/30/2001 10:30:46 AM
From: Yaacov	Respond to of 23908

You had better get to bed or your going to miss Sunday Mass. I admire your efforts in blaming everyone but israel for their attack on the USS Liberty. "" I agree with you. Israel for reason of the "state security" attacked the USS Liberty! You seem to know the reason.

To: Noneyet who wrote (5366)	10/23/2001 1:33:05 AM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 23908

Body of Secrets: Evidence of Deliberate Israeli Attack on USS Liberty Beyond Circumstantial at Last wrmea.com "I watched in horror as the floating life rafts were riddled with holes. No survivors were planned for that day. When the 'prepare to abandon ship' was announced, what was left of our lifeboats were released overboard; they were immediately machine-gunned by the torpedo boats. It was obvious that no one was meant to survive this assault." Stan White, top American enlisted man on the USS Liberty With allies like this, who needs enemies? Tom