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To: hmaly who wrote (56734)	9/30/2001 11:40:01 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

I doubt if even Elmer will argue with that one. All companies try to show their products off in a good light I'm not sure but I think I've just been insulted<g> Things need to be put in perspective. I can remember when the original Pentium came out there was little difference between it and the 100MHz 486 available at the time. Later versions improved significantly. So the lack of a huge performance boost is not unprecedented. Northwood will be a significant increase too. Perhaps a more important point is that it's getting harder to squeeze more performance out of these designs. Most of the rabbits have already been pulled out of that hat. How big was the increase from K6 to Athlon? EP

To: hmaly who wrote (56734)	9/30/2001 12:15:45 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

hmaly, Re: "Everyone here knows Intel fixes the benches to show their processors off in the light Intc wishes to showcase. But Milo didn't fix the benches. He used an existing bench which was common to all three processors and was optimized for all three, to show running comparisons between the three." I bet if you run iCOMP on a Pentium 4, it would show the IPC as being better than the Pentium III. But since iCOMP only compared Pentium II with Pentium MMX, Milo was making a blind comparison. I've also showed that in Quake III, a 2GHz Pentium 4, because it scales much better than a Pentium III, may have a much better score than an equally clocked Pentium III in this benchmark. Therefore, the IPC penalty that Milo has brought up, is only being proven by making far reaching assumptions that are probably not true. wanna_bmw