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To: PROLIFE who wrote (650)	9/30/2001 8:14:33 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 5569

It's good to see that you're still alive and kicking. I often prayed for you and the many unpleasant excheanges. May the Lord keep you, heal you, and lead you into the fullness of his wisdom and will. With that said, it saddens me to correct your attempted distortions of the clear context of that verse. Chrsit chose Peter begin he had the faith to know that Jesus was the divine Messiah. It was upon this inspired faith given to Peter that God would build his Church. Yes, the Church is build by faith in Christ, but it is a faith and grace transported by Jesus's ordained Apostolic leadership. Jesus created a Church of faith, but also a Church with a clearly ordained leadership. The Protestant obssession with demeaning and destroying the clear leadership that Jesus had created is clearly from a stanic spirit. Read the 15th chapter of Acts and noticed that this Apostolic leadership is in charge of the Church with Peter as chief among the Apostles. Also notice that Paul is clearly in obedience to this leadership and takes the decrees of the First Council of Jerusalem and carries them to the Gentile Churches as laws to be obeyed. This Apostolic leadership has a clear and documented historical foundation. Christ said: "and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ" According to many Protestant Reformers, the "gates of hell had prevailed against the (Catholic era) of the Church. But that would be a contradiction of Jesus's very words. God has worked in his Church in every era and perior of history, despite Protestant efforts at denying and demeaning the many centuries of Catholic worship and evangelism.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (650)	10/2/2001 11:38:59 AM
From: justinmartyr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

Yes, God is no respecter of persons and we Christians are all part of the universal priesthood and our Lord Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church, but our Lord did not leave his Church in a state of spiritual anarchy to leave a legacy of a spiritual "free-for-all". He set up authority structures that He Himself delegated and intended to last until His Second Coming in power and glory. Upon Peter he conferred the "keys of the kingdom" which harkens back to Isaiah 22 (see the cross reference guide in most Bibles). Those keys are a symbol of an office and an authority. The passage from Isaiah 22 records the deposing of Shebna, the "prime minister" of the house of David and the inauguration of Eliakim to that office by the placing of the "key of the house of David" on his shoulder. Another interesting tidbit is that David had been dead for several hundred years when Isaiah prophesied this, and yet he refers to it as the Key of David and as still existing in his own day. The keys of the kingdom represent legislative and dynastic authority (to bind and loose) in the Messianic kingdom. Now Matthew's gospel is all about the Kingdom of God and Jesus our Lord as David's greater Son. As the Son of David, the Messiah, He is conferring on blessed Peter a leadership office, which is greater than Peter himself and is of such magnitude that it will last as long as the Church does. Here is a prophecy and a promise from the mouth of our Lord Jesus Christ that has been fulfilled in time and space right down to our own day. Peter is the rock in the Rock and we are all sons in the Son and priests in the great High Priest. Thanks be to God! The grace and peace of Christ be with all posters on this board.