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To: E who wrote (1938)	9/30/2001 6:59:29 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Osama bin Laden, in particular, has voiced outrage at the presence of American women soldiers on Saudi soil. Might he be worried that the women of the Gulf are watching them and taking note?>>>>>>>>>> Ha! The Internet is a wonderful thing. I embrace it with utter glee. The fact that women freely participate in conversation here lends a stability absent in fundamentalist Islamic society imo. This article still didn't attempt to explain the fear and loathing that Islam created against women. That question begs an answer. I hope to come to a better understanding about those beliefs through this thread and the new one created by Addi. Subject 51780 Best, M

To: E who wrote (1938)	9/30/2001 7:41:43 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 281500

The conclusion is especially apt, especially in light of the handwringers who insist it is the United States which needs to go sit in the corner and think about how badly we have acted (blah, blah, blah...): >> Given the depth of Islam's conflict with the West, trading Israel for Syria's or Iran's help in the reprisals against bin Laden will win us no real friends; it will only convince the Muslim world that America can be brought to betray its allies with the right combinations of threats and face-saving formulas. The real work--and, sadly, it will take far longer than even the war against terrorism--must take place within Islam itself. Self-criticism rather than blaming others, receptivity rather than dogmatic aggression, especially to their own women--these are some of the difficult steps Islam needs to take if it wants to regain the glory for which it so desperately longs. <<<