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To: CountofMoneyCristo who wrote (1981)10/1/2001 1:11:35 AM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 281500
 
I think Colin Powell has failed in building a coalition in one important way: most countries are unwilling to risk military action.

We are not asking them to participate in military action. It would not be in our interest to ask them to participate in military action. Powell is using his head. I wish some others would do the same.



To: CountofMoneyCristo who wrote (1981)10/1/2001 4:16:12 AM
From: frankw1900  Respond to of 281500
 
For example, if Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Dubai, Qatar, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain, the UAE and others are
serious about eliminating terrorism, then I think now is time to ante up. YOU send troops to Afghanistan. YOUR nations have
allowed these criminals to flourish so by definition you are a part of this problem. PERIOD. We have learned that most of the
terrorists were Saudi nationals. It is a disgrace how little Saudi Arabia has done to fight this evil.


They have to send troops to their own front lines , first. They have their own terrorist cultures, (with the exception of Syria, which killed most of them), which they must deal with. They have elements inside bent on destroying all vestiges of modernity. That is the problem: They don't have the stomach to kill large numbers of their own citizens. And they will not have it until they see they are looking at an ideology every bit as evil as Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Maoism, and the closest parallel, Pol Pot-ism.

Bush and Rumsfield have one thing right. It will be a long, miserable, unspectacular road that American policy leads down the next few years. The Taliban may well self destruct in Afghanistan the next while but others like them exist in many countries including the ones you mention. Most important are Egypt, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Killing large numbers of their own people and even relatives is very hard for decent folk. This killing is a corollary of being with the US even if these countries never send a single soldier to Afghanistan. Their plates are full.