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To: Kevin Podsiadlik who wrote (132245)	10/1/2001 2:35:48 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

But what I don't understand is why you seem so determined to cast the terrorist actions as America's fault?? Because doing so allows him to feel vindicated in his isolationist, anti-globalist views. "Some anti-globalists have found a kind of consolation, even a cause of satisfaction, in these terrible events—that of having been, as they see it, proved right." The Economist, Sept. 27, 2001 economist.com

To: Kevin Podsiadlik who wrote (132245)	10/1/2001 3:22:07 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 164684

>> The problem there is, many people have very low thresholds for what constitutes "imposing". Some would say "saying whatever we like" IS tantamount to "imposing". << you are naive if you think the united states exercises it's power with only words. obviously it's our actions that have created worldwide enemies. >> Read up on the Smoot-Hawley tariff. It wasn't a cause, but it did make it considerably worse than it need have been << the famous tarriff you are referring to wasn't instated until well after the depression had begun. furthermore, in 1930 imports were only 4% of total GNP. the tarriff only affected a third of imports. so we are talking a little over 1% of GNP was affected by smoot-hawley. net exports fell a measly $700 million. domestic spending declined $47 billion. a more logical and reasonable explanation for what kept us mired in the depression was the extreme tax hikes enacted by hoover and fdr. let's raise taxes dramatically heading into a recession! nice try. >> Where will we be in a millennium? Will isolationism prevent it? I doubt it. << well free trade and a one world order doesn't seem to be achieving it's goals of peace and prosperity now does it? >> Unless what you mean by "doing wrong" is "being the most prosperous nation in the history of the world". Whether we choose to share the ingredients of our prosperity with others or not, some people are going to be resentful. That cannot be escaped. << we've been the most prosperous nation for quite a while now, long before new world orders and globalism and interventionism. as you are starting to witness before your very eyes, we will not remain the most prosperous nation if we continue on our current path. we will suffer the fate of prior imperialist empires. >> But what I don't understand is why you seem so determined to cast the terrorist actions as America's fault?? << a woman dresses very revealing and walks down the street late at night by herself in a seedy neighborhood. she is attacked and raped. did she deserve to be raped? no. did the person who perpetrated the rape have a justification for his actions? no. does he deserve to be punished? yes. could she have taken steps to prevent placing herself in harm's way? YES. did the 7,000 people in NY and DC deserve to be slaughtered? NO. are the perpetrators who committed the violent slaughter justified? NO. like the rapist, should they be punished? YES. were there steps we could've taken and still can take to avoid placing ourselves in harm's way from terrorists? YES capiche?