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To: uu who wrote (38)10/2/2001 5:49:32 AM
From: AmericanVoter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
Hi Addi

I am not putting a spin on it... far from it... merely citing facts... if you call that being creative in putting a spin, well, I guess that is your prerogative... but for me, it ends here...

same thing applies to what is referred to by beating one's wife in the holy Quran... when the Quran makes reference to that, does that mean that Muslims should go beat up their wives... ?! far from it... our lack of knowledge of the whole should be our indication not to misjudge or misunderstands the part... you have shown otherwise... you pick on one point and dwell on it without citing why was it ever mentioned or even trying to find out... again, that is your prerogative...

my prerogative is not to waste my time going in circles... I do not have a need or desire to have the last word on anything... I work as a consultant, and my motto has always been, and still is, "you can take the horse to the water, but you can't make him drink" ...

the other issue that I see you wrote about is sodomy (what you refer to as approaching his wife from the rear)... again, you took a bad translation and dwelled on it...or may be it’s a translation that meets your needs which seem to be mainly defamatory to Islam and not what you claim that you want to learn…

may be you did not know that the Quran states that if a man does that with his wife, it becomes taboo for them have intercourse again … it’s as if they have divorced… also, may be you did nit know that the Quran states that Allah swt destroyed a whole village because men used to do it in the rear like you refer to it... that being the case, can the Quran be taken like you posted in your translation saying that it's ok to do it that way with your wife ? one has to apply some sense and logic in their thinking... otherwise it becomes ... blah, blah, blah

Addi, I like to leave you with the following

"in the animal kingdom,
where ignorance reigns
and stupidity runs very high
common sense, which is not very common to the common people, is always essential"

regards
amein alsuezi