To: Ga Bard who wrote (319 ) 10/4/2001 10:31:26 AM From: ahhaha Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 455 You know the more you guys try to spin this and call everyone on the petition ignotant ... we show you what we have watch that goes against your let's say knowledge and you still come up with opinions that show you don;t have a clue what you are talking about. You must be one of those guys to whom you refer.After Herzog got nailed for the phone calls the MMS came up with a nice little code. Partial fills or rather intitial as they call it minimum order flow to capture the order. I have tracked this market makers and trading longs for years. I have a good understanding what the codes means. You can invent any myth you want, but that won't solve your problem. Use limit orders or better yet, cut off the myth maker. NOR You do not take into account level III or the automatic order fill system or the order flow. What does that have to do with it? Just how should it be accounted? Besides, it's all rigged, isn't it? MyMyMy name calling again ... Oh well ... We will complain about whatever we watch that becomes a tool of abuse and manipulation yo fleece people. You fleece yourself and that's why you're a clown, patzer. Nonetheless, you continue to play the game, and lose. If you weren't losing, why would you be complaining? Will you stay on topic ... this is not about LEGAL Short Selling of marginable securities and the rules associated with it. Oh. Why are you trying to send a trade offshore? Your broker can't do that. It's illegal. In fact, send it offshore to where? Cuba?Offshore there are no stipulations. Before you make these unfounded claims YOU SHOULD LEARN HOW THE MACHINERY WORKS.Tell you what show me the disclosure of short selling. Show me the disclosure of buying.Please I would love to see the rules that short selling is disclosed and the checks and balances. You can't show me the "checks and balances" on the buy side, so why should I show you what your myths won't accept? Only disclosure is voluntary ... and that is only in the USA ... Offshore does not reprot nor is the trade reported as one ... If you don't like it in Cuba, you can try to clear in China, that is, if they don't cut your myth maker off.Nope an ECN will fill without logic to manipulation. This sentence isn't coherent, but I'll take it to mean that the ECN will give you the worst price. Isn't that logical? It tries to maximize its commission? An ECn does not have greed, vice, or the other emotions that MMs do because they are human and have there own agenda. Yes, minimizing the quality of your execution. You deny it? You deny that they've rigged the program to burn you? How trusting.