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To: epsteinbd who wrote (5958)	10/4/2001 11:23:14 AM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Not sure if you know the history of Tu planes...At least a dozen dropped of the sky in Russia in the past decade...But..who (besides Gus) knows the truth...

To: epsteinbd who wrote (5958)	10/4/2001 11:33:20 AM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

news.bbc.co.uk Tuesday, 3 July, 2001, 23:31 GMT 00:31 UK Russia's shaky air safety record Tu-154s have been involved in several crashes The crash of the Vladivostok Avia plane in Siberia is the latest in a long series of fatal crashes involving former Soviet aircraft. The accidents have generally been attributed to cash shortages, which lower already poor maintenance standards and place extra pressure on air crews. Safety concerns Ageing aircraft Poor maintenance Obsolete air traffic control system The former Soviet air fleet has been plagued by chronic safety problems since the 1991 collapse of the union and the break-up of the former state airline Aeroflot into some 400 companies. Concern is frequently expressed about safety standards in many of the small airlines, many of them using some of the older planes shed by the giant Aeroflot. The ageing Tupolev 154, the make of plane involved in this latest crash, remains popular with the airlines of the former Soviet Union, despite the emergence of safety fears following numerous crashes. More than 1,000 Tu-154s have been built and most remain active. Apart from ageing aircraft and insufficient maintenance, serious concern has been expressed over the air traffic control system in the region. Much of its equipment is obsolete and was now incompatible with the international air navigation system However, in recent years, the safety record of former Soviet airlines has improved, and the last serious crash involving an airliner from the former Soviet Union was in 1997. Some of the more serious passenger plane crashes of recent years include: 15 December 1997: A Tu-154 from the former Soviet republic of Tajikistan crashes in the United Arab Emirates, killing 85 passengers and crew. 18 March 1997: 50 passengers and crew die when the tail of their An-24 charter plane breaks off in mid-air while en route to Turkey. 29 August 1996: A Tu-154 passenger plane carrying Russian and Ukrainian miners and their families to work on Norway's Arctic island of Spitzbergen crashes into a mountain top, killing all 143 people on board. 7 December 1995: A Tu-154 with 97 people aboard disappears en route to the far eastern city of Khabarovsk. 26 September 1994: A Yak-40 airliner crashes while trying to reach an airport in Siberia to make an emergency landing in bad weather. All 26 people on board die. 23 March 1994: An Airbus A-310 belonging to Aeroflot crashes near Novokuznetsk, killing 70 people. 3 January 1994: All 124 people on board a Tu-154 plane are killed when it crashes in Siberia, as well as a farmer on the ground.

To: epsteinbd who wrote (5958)	10/4/2001 4:34:07 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Re: Didn't I hear today a French minister saying that the Toulouse accident could in fact be a terrorist attack ? BBC. If you don't believe that this minister is on my pay roll, so not say so. Yeah... Just as in the aftermath of Sept 11, several US officials --including Senators/House Reps-- publicly said that it wasn't sure whether Bin Laden was the sole/actual mastermind behind the terrorist attacks... Likewise, when the French judicial authorities will have issued their "conclusions" about the Toulouse blast, all the dissenting opinions will conform and rally around the official truth --especially the Ministers since the separation of powers forbids the Executive to criticize a Judiciary decision...