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To: KyrosL who wrote (127349)	10/4/2001 12:40:16 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 436258

Kyrosl, what I wrote was >> Liberal Education and true Democracy << and not the other way around sorry for the confusion I may had added that there is a need of a few years of "Liberal education" before democracy. You are right that due to incitement against the Western culture some one like bin Laden will win election. It is true that China and for that matter Russia are far more advanced than Saudi Arabia. ...... edit .........

To: KyrosL who wrote (127349)	10/4/2001 3:28:54 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

nytimes.com The Saudis wanted their nationals out of American clutches in a hurry, and in Washington, what Bandar wants, Bandar gets. With seeming frankness and delicious leaks, the pilot-prince charms diplomats, disarms journalists (did you catch his recent media blitz?) and gets the Kingdom's way. Such deference infuriates F.B.I. agents who remember the terror bombing that killed four Americans who were training the Saudi National Guard six years ago in Riyadh. Before the F.B.I. could query those rounded up about links to bin Laden, Saudi "justice" forced confessions from these bin Laden worshipers and promptly beheaded them; dead men told no tales. Worse was the stonewalling by Saudi royalty of the F.B.I.'s investigation of the massacre of 19 American airmen in Dhahran's Khobar Towers. The F.B.I. was not allowed to interview terrorist suspects nor to examine the getaway car; instead, our agents were shown selected videos. When a federal grand jury here finally indicted 13 Saudis, the Kingdom blew us off; no trial has been held there because the accused would expose corruption on high. Prince Bandar was no help to State or the F.B.I. in finding the terrorists behind these two separate murders of Americans by Saudi terrorists. But after 7,000 more Americans died at the hands of Saudi radicals, and the royal family wanted its and bin Laden's relatives yanked home, Bandar said "Jump" and the U.S. replied, "How high?" The reason for our sensitivity to Saudi royalty's feelings is that Colin Powell is again into "coalition-building." Our invitation seems to say, "Help us catch this particular terrorist gang now and all is forgiven."To other Arab states, that message is in danger of being refined to "Just give us names and hideouts so we can kill the terrorists who bombed us, and we'll pay you for it by leaning on the Israelis to appease the terrorists who are bombing them."...................................... But let us not pay too much for too little. Saudi intelligence will rat on Iranian Hezbollah terrorists, but not on Hamas, and certainly not on the Saudi money trail to Al Qaeda.