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To: James Calladine who wrote (6200)10/4/2001 1:26:01 PM
From: Qone0  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27666
 
I would have to conclude that what you say is what people
HOPE will be accomplished, but never has, really.


You missed the main point. The more total the victory in war the longer the peace. This is a fact because the victor of the war will come into the land that has been defeated. And put the victors way of thinking and values into the schools,the press ect.

The less total the victory in war. RE: WW1 the shorter the peace will be because the values of the two sides are still different.

Different values and way of thinking IS what causes war.

Values are NEVER changed through negotiation or debate.

Only war can do that.



To: James Calladine who wrote (6200)10/4/2001 1:59:04 PM
From: Tadsamillionaire  Respond to of 27666
 
Russia, Iran Sign Military Deal
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday Oct. 2, 2001
MOSCOW -- Russian and Iranian defense ministers signed Tuesday a military-technical cooperation deal between the two countries, the official RIA Novosti news agency reported.
Iran's Ali Shamkhani arrived in Moscow Monday for a four-day visit that included talks with Russia's Sergei Ivanov. The visit was originally scheduled for September and was subsequently postponed as it overlapped with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's trip to the Russian capital.

According to Ivanov, Tuesday's agreement "is not secret, complies with all stipulations of international law, all standards and is practically identical with the agreements that Russia has with other countries."

The Russian minister added that the deal was agreed to in principle in March during Iranian President Mohammad Khatami's visit to Moscow.

Without disclosing any details in regard to potential arms sales, Ivanov mentioned that Russia was ready to sell Iran defensive weapons.

Shamkhani noted that the agreement was not directed against third countries and would "promote the strengthening of peace, strategic stability in the region, as well as cooperation in other areas."

During his visit, Shamkhani is expected to discuss with Russian government officials and Security Council members a number of civilian projects envisioned by bilateral trade agreements in energy, transportation and other sectors.

"Cooperation (between Russia and Iran) already existed, but today it is becoming more topical as the situation in the region dictates the necessity to step it up in all directions," Shamkhani said.

As they spoke on regional stability, the ministers dismissed speculations that the Russian-Iranian partnership would disrupt the balance of power in the region.

"Russia has never supported any change of the power balance in the region, moreover its disruption," said Ivanov.

Shamkhani and Ivanov also raised the issue of combating terrorism following the Sept. 11 terror attacks on New York and Washington, which left more than 6,000 people dead or missing.

"If the decision to strike (the Taliban) is taken by the United Nations, Iran will naturally support it," Shamkhani said of U.S. intentions to punish Afghanistan's ruling regime. The Taliban is harboring the chief suspect in the attacks, alleged terror mastermind Osama bin Laden.

However, the Iranian minister expressed concern over the accuracy of eventual strikes, fearing innocent civilians might be killed in the process.

"The roots of terrorism should be discovered and subsequently destroyed without harming the people," added Shamkani.

Ivanov pointed out that Moscow and Tehran had been fighting an ongoing battle against drug trafficking in Afghanistan which "provides the financial backing for terrorism."

"The territory of Afghanistan is a shelter for many terrorist groups as well as a tremendous market for the narcotics trade," added Ivanov.

The ministers agreed that double standards in dealing with terrorism worldwide should be dropped if the initiative were to achieve a breakthrough.

At the end of Tuesday's talks, Shamkhani officially invited Ivanov to visit Iran.

newsmax.com