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To: ManyMoose who wrote (189370)10/4/2001 11:18:07 PM
From: E  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Secular Arabs are secular; secular Jews are secular. The only thing that would make them not secular if they weren't. So what?

We're talking about religious zealots. Face it, dood. Faith-based terrorists. Of course they don't deserve respect, they deserve loathing and contempt. Duh.

That doesn't make them secular, you silly.

Read these excerpts from that NYT piece, for heaven's sake. Note subtle signs of non-secular mentality. Rilly rilly concentrate, you may pick them up! (Look for hints!)

Will Suggests Suspect Had Long Planned to
Die for Beliefs

By PHILIP SHENON and DAVID JOHNSTON

WASHINGTON, Oct. 3 — NYT

Mohamed Atta, described by law
enforcement officials as the ringleader of the
Sept. 11 hijackers, left a will in which he
said he wanted to be buried "next to good
Muslims," with his corpse pointed east
toward Mecca,
the officials said.

They said the will was found in a suitcase that Mr. Atta, a 33-year-old
Egyptian, left at Logan Airport in Boston, where he boarded an American
Airlines jet that later slammed into the north tower of the World Trade
Center in New York, possibly with Mr. Atta at the controls.

The will was dated April 1996, which would suggest that Mr. Atta had been
planning for years to die for Islam and that he wanted his final actions to be
understood as an effort to serve God.


At his funeral, "everybody should mention God's name and that I died as a
Muslim, which is God's religion,"
he wrote, adding that "everyone who
attends my funeral should ask that I will be forgiven for what I have done in
the past"
— although "not this action."...

Friends and other students have said that while studying in Germany, Mr.
Atta underwent a profound change in his religious beliefs and temperament.
He embraced Muslim fundamentalism and surrounded himself with other
devout followers.
...

Mr. Atta's will made clear that he wanted his funeral to be carried out
according to strict Muslim tradition.

"The people who will prepare my body should be good Muslims because
this will remind me of God
and his forgiveness," he wrote. "Those who will sit
beside my body must remember Allah, God, and pray for me to be with the
angels.

"When you bury me, the people with whom I will be buried should be good
Muslims. I want to face east toward Mecca."


There were detailed instructions for the preparation of his body before burial.
He wanted only "good Muslims" to wash his corpse, and he asked that his
body then be wrapped in three pieces of white cloth "not to be made from
silk or expensive material." He asked that "the person who will wash my
body near the genitals must wear gloves on his hand so he won't touch my
genitals."


Mr. Atta, said to be painfully shy around women throughout his life, asked
that women play no role in his funeral. "I don't want any women to go to my
grave at all during my funeral or any occasion thereafter," he wrote. "I don't
want a pregnant woman or a person who is not clean to come and say
goodbye to me because I don't approve of it."


(I don't know whether that stuff about women and unclean persons and not touching his genitals is religious, but what the hey, it seems very... unsecular. But maybe leave that out because I don't really know much about what the Koran says about women. I do have the impression it isn't very... complimentary, though. Atta sure didn't like women!)