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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Srexley who wrote (189552)	10/5/2001 2:59:54 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

This issue as to whether Clinton is a liar is not really in dispute at this point. It is in fact much more probable than not that he lied about the statement (concerning potsmoking) and the demolib pinhead argument that someone must be convicted of perjury before we can call that person a liar lacks all common sense....

To: Srexley who wrote (189552)	10/5/2001 3:32:55 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 769670

Why would someone smoke and not inhale. Well the cowardly insecure who had to fit in and had to do whatever to please someone else. Oh the more likely liar. Coward, insecure, liar or all of the above. "He smoked but did not inhale says it all" Leadership or a sheep, Honest or a liar. watman.com was created by eight years of faulty preparation and this is causing the economic uncertainty that will last for several months and hopefully not years and 6000 are dead. All Americans lost freedoms. He smoked but did not inhale says it all. tom watson tosiwmee

To: Srexley who wrote (189552)	10/5/2001 5:15:55 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

"You KNEW for sure he was lying????" Glad to see you are not so absolute now, but you still say it was very very probable that he was lying. That was my sole reason for telling you my personal story with the cigarettes. First of all I was never a regular smoker of cigarettes. I smoked them when they were free and never liked the taste of smoking paper but did smoke and enjoy cigars when I could afford one. I didn't want to inhale cigarettes because I recognized that they were addictive. I didn't think I was likely to get addicted to cigars since I didn't inhale and when I tried to quit about 20 years later I didn't have much of a problem. There was some addiction but it wasn't anywhere near the level of cigarette smokers since I had only ingested nicotine orally. With regard to pot smoking I think you are right .....you have to inhale to get the full effect although if you are in a crowd of smokers you might get a second hand effect. I think Clinton did the same thing I would have done and probably for the same reason.....he didn't want to inhale because he had never done it before and inhaling a cigarette the first few times is not a pleasant experience. He was probably also concerned about addiction to a drug we were being told was both mind altering and addictive. My daughter confessed to trying it in college but also didn't inhale largely because she is not a smoker and didn't want to learn how to inhale. I have a friend who was a smoker and did try it including the inhaling......he said he couldn't feel any effect and thought a lot of it was power of suggestion. Another chain smoking colleague had a similar comment. The point is, it was easy for comedians and the political opposition to make a fool of Clinton's admission but in fact not all people who try pot and cigarettes do inhale . As to looking "dorky" if you didn't get high, I don't think that's true either. I see the same effect with alcohol.....some folks falling over themselves after a glass of beer while others will control themselves for hours..... I know this is true cause I do it myself.....I'm convinced most alcohol induced behavior is a state of mind.... don't get the impression I'm saying alcohol doesn't have an effect, it does, but the silly behavior is controllable.....