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To: ratan lal who wrote (2872)	10/5/2001 10:58:56 PM
From: JustTradeEm	Respond to of 281500

Whether the 500k kids died due to sanctions or may have died anyway is not the point. Ratan, you're right .... the point really is that these children died thanks to the dictator of their nation. He most likely would have gassed them anyway .... JB

To: ratan lal who wrote (2872)	10/5/2001 11:13:37 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Ratan, Thankyou for your response. I feel we have a discussion here -g- Whether the 500k kids died due to sanctions or may have died anyway is not the point. The point is that sanctions were put in by the US after a war which the US got involved in strictly for economic reasons. Well, I do feel a little upset that 500k kids died, it is "a point". If I or my government was responsible in any way ( I have kids too!) I would feel the guilt (I hope) and do something about it. Yes the Western Governments are fcked up and make mistakes, but the will of the ordinary people can have an effect. The war with Iraq was not just for economic reasons. Fcked up as our governments are, I (I think we can say we)do not wish to see Sadaam in control. Is that hard to understand? We have a real problem if you don't understand that point. Re the Fundie Muslim Whackos. Yes they are a force unto themselves, sure the CIA screwed up helping them regain their freedom, but they are not the CAUSE of those whackos. If you check the record, I don't think they expected or asked them to go into the Kashmir or to crash into the WTC in NY. Where and when does US stop? The USA ain't going to stop. Neither are some of the other countries not run by religeous whackos.

To: ratan lal who wrote (2872)	10/6/2001 12:23:18 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

>>The point is that sanctions were put in by the US after a war which the US got involved in strictly for economic reasons.<< Well, pardner. First of all, what kind of capitalist sneers at "economic reasons"? I sure don't. You've already been told, and maybe you were not listening, that not only the USA but Europe and Asia buy oil from the Middle East. Economics means food on the table, a roof over your head, clothes on your back, hospitals and schools. Nobody but an extremely naive person or a fool would sneer at economics. Second, the sanctions against Iraq were put on, not by the United States, but the United Nations, because Iraq refuses to get rid of its capacity to make weapons of mass destruction. Third, all the money that Iraq gets from selling oil can be used to buy food and medical supplies for its citizens. Why doesn't Iraq use its money to buy food and medical supplies? I have an idea - it's because they don't care about all the poor Iraqi children except making them into political footballs.