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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6095)	10/6/2001 5:23:17 AM
From: epsteinbd	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

I perfectly understand that you want to see a French president waving a Kuran on your TV. But when is the last time you saw one waving any religious book ? BTW what was his name ? As to your previous message, are you suggesting Pentagon should release any infos it has on the missile issue ?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6095)	10/6/2001 5:47:17 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

if i were king: alcohol would be illegal. well maybe a beer or glass of wine a day (science shows it can be good for the heart) but after that drinkers would get the death sentence. this is the one good thing islam gives us; its ban on alcohol. having banned alcohol, i would make all hallucinogens freely available; lsd, marijuana, mushrooms, dmt... you name it. nitrous oxide dispensers would be in all public places. oh and 'ecstasy' would be free too... as for the islamics, here is how i would handle them; the centerpiece of my foreign policy... 'operation frank n furter' over the 'lands of islam,' the u.s. would drop loads and loads of lingerie, perfume (the kind with the female phermones), makeup, and cuban lingerie. along with all of that, millions of back issues of 'leg show' magazine would be dropped. of course, many hallucinogens would also be dropped. to top it all off, the u.s. would drop millions of cd players with great records such as all of the led zeppelin through 'presence,' and of course, kiss alive! of course, many albums from other androgens would be dropped - classic david bowie, flock of seagulls, the cure, morrisey. and of course much parliament funkadelic would be heard throughout the lands... our current 'leaders' don't have a clue as to how to act. as it is, it looks to me like - in the 'end' - some form of monotheistic theocracy will prevail worldwide with the pagans once again left on the proverbial outside looking in. yes, a 'stable order of procreation' is what we'll get, and once again no one will ever ask, 'p-u-s-s-why?' andy

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6095)	10/6/2001 10:16:05 AM
From: Yaacov	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 23908

AM THIS IS AMERICA..."" Gus, I think it is only fair that all the Arabs in America carry specail ID cards and be profiled. This is just for their own protection. This may sound unconstitutional, but what the heck, what else is there to do. Most terrorist attacks are done by Arabs or Moslems. I think the people have to protected, with the same token that Moslems and Arabs need to be protected. So we should be catious! Simple as that. This is not racism, but just a precaution. I like to know what you think? Last but not least, you wanted to know what books to read on the Middle East, well, I suggest, you start reading Moslems holly book, Koran. It teaches compassion, forgivness, and love, not hatred. I am putting together a list of books that may interest you!! Be well my friend, Gus, one last advice, stay away from Kabul if you can help it. Yaacov

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6095)	10/6/2001 10:37:35 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Thats an inspiring article, thanks for pointing it out. What did you make of Berlusconi's remarks?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6095)	10/6/2001 2:23:20 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

But at the end of the most spectacular line-up of diplomatic engagements was a familiar lesson in history: Nations are guided by self-interest, not sentiment. timesofindia.com

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6095)	10/6/2001 6:21:33 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Nezar Hindawi was convicted of attempting to place on an El Al aircraft at London (Heathrow) Airport a device likely to destroy or damage the aircraft contrary to Section 1(1) of the Criminal Attempts Act 1981. He had pleaded not guilty to this charge but guilty to two charges involving the possession of a handgun and ammunition without a certificate. After being found guilty on all three, he was sentenced to 45 years' imprisonment on the major charge and 18 months on the minor charges. The judge commented that "this was a well-planned, well-organised crime, which involved many others besides yourself, some of them people in high places. A more cruel and callous deception and a more horrendous massacre it is difficult to imagine" Experts testified during the trial that had the device, containing 1.5 kg of military explosive, been detonated, it would probably have caused the total loss of the aircraft and the deaths of all 375 passengers and crew. Hindawi's trial Nezar Hindawi had been arrested on 18 April 1986 at a hotel in West London. During interrogation, he admitted having handed his pregnant Irish girlfriend a bag containing an explosive device for her to take on a flight to Israel. Initially he claimed that he was a drug smuggler working for a certain Khalid Dandesh who had promised him E250,000. Hindawi said that in 1985, with his brother Ahmed Hasi and a Palestinian shopkeeper, Farouk Salameh, he had founded a "Jordanian Revolutionary Movement for National Salvation" dedicated to the overthrow of King Hussein and the killing of Jews; after abortive meetings with Libyan officials in Tripoli they had approached Syria for help. According to the evidence presented in court, he met Brigadier-General Mohammed Kholi, head of Syrian Air Force Intelligence, and three officials, including Haitham Said who was described in court as Kholi's deputy, in Damascus in January 1986. The following month, Said provided him with a Syrian service passport in the false name of Issam Share and asked him to place a bomb on an El Al aircraft. Hindawi, accompanied by Samer Kokash whom he had also met in January, made a dummy run to London. On their return to Damascus, Said instructed him in the arming of bomb detonators disguised as pocket calculators; he also confirmed the target and handed over $12,000 as part of a total of $250,000. Using his Syrian official passport in the name of Share, Hindawi returned to London on 5 April, and stayed at the Royal Garden Hotel posing as a member of a Syrian Arab Airlines (SAA) crew. He was passed a bag containing Semtex, a powerful military plastic explosive of Czechoslovak manufacture, together with a calculator, by Adnan Habib ict.org.il Syrian reaction The Syrian authorities subsequently admitted that Hindawi was carrying a Syrian service passport in a false name, that two separate visa applications had had official support, that he met the Syrian Ambassador immediately after the bomb's discovery and that he spent the following night in accommodation belonging to a member of the Syrian Embassy. No explanation, however, has been offered about the hair dye and traces of Hindawi's hair found in this flat, about Hindawi's stay in SAA accommodation at the Royal Garden Hotel or about his presence on an SAA crew bus when the bomb was discovered. The Syrians have claimed that security staff at Heathrow Airport singled out Miss Murphy and made a particular point of searching her baggage. As it is customary for El Al security officials to ask passengers whether their luggage is their own and if they packed it, and as Hindawi's girlfriend replied in the negative, she was automatically subjected to special scrutiny. Thus the bomb and the calculator were discovered. Reports began appearing on 7 November to the effect that Hindawi's father, Nawwaf Hindawi, had been condemned to death in absentia by the Jordanian authorities for spying for Israel. Similar rumours have emerged about one of his brothers, Mahmoud Hindawi. In fact, neither man has ever been suspected of having any intelligence connexion with the Israeli authorities