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To: JRI who wrote (127881)10/6/2001 12:20:59 PM
From: marginmike  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Sharon doesnt have a choice, he must defend Isreal interest's. The Arabs know the israelis are on a leash and are taking advantage. I think the Czeck analogy is very good one. I also disagree with the US focusing on Bin-laden. I think IRAN,IRAQ, SYRIA,EGYPT, SAUDI Yeman, Sudan all need to be toppled or cripled from building weapons of Mass destruction, and aiding terrorists. Its like the guy selling the gasoline to the ARSONIST and when the police come they say "sure will help you catch him. However they are still selling the gasoloine to other arsonist's. The issue we have us is nothing less then a clash of cultures and societies, that will not end unless we remove those who threaten are way of life. The radical Arab nations, need to be destroyed, and that could mean a lengthy ground war to remove IRAQ and IRAN as potential threats. This is not schoolyard tiff's any more. At some point IRAN and IRAQ will complete a nuke and allow its access to somebody whom will kill millions of innocent American's. I am so far very disapointed that the US hasnt made this clear to these countries that any further proliferation will be considered acts of war against the USA. Lets face it we are at war with the Islamic fundimentalist culture, lets cll it Islamcrazyism, its no diferent from stalinism, or Nazism, or fascism. In many ways they have many similarities. The nations that propagate this new ISM will have to be destroyed, no matter whgat the world perception is, or how many inocent Muslim's die. It is either are sosiety or theirs, and unless you want to live like the poor israeli's do, worried about constant attacks, or nuklear anihalation and Bio attacks then we need to reasert the draft, put 3-4 million men under arms, shift the economy to a war production vehicle and take care of business like we did in WWII. The current administration is playing games, when there are people trying to killl thousands of Americans and castrate our economy. In many ways its reminiscent of how the Ancient Romans dealt with the Barbarians after they lost the courage to fight them. Eventially the barbarians sacked rome time and time again as senators scemed alliances to wish them away. We as Americans must prepare for what is in no uncertain terms a world war and attack against Democratic ideals and plurality. The media keeps reporting this is not a traditional ground war. I disagree there are several countries(Iraq,Iran,Syria) that can be attacked and defeated in a conventional way. If we dont do it now, we will have to eventially. As for the Israeli's they have been the only ones fighting on the front lines for 40 years, frankly I hope they do roll and end this stupid coalation nonsense. The united states Armed forces with the help of Isreal, britain, and canada can take care of its own interest's and damn well better.



To: JRI who wrote (127881)10/6/2001 1:34:36 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
Let me understand your reasoning

Pakistan is on the list of harboring terrorist organization, supported the Taliban and bin Laden. .......

and all of a sudden Pakistan is our best friend. ................. WHY ???

Several years ago Clinton sends around 60 special forces to get bin Laden and they are kicked out from Pakistan by the present regime ........ that is nice ........ were you thinking that maybe by chance they would had been successful, the WTC disaster would had not happen ......... but now Powell has Pakistan with the same regime in the coalition against terror ............... WHY????

Sudden Saudi Arabia, out of the blue, "sells" Pakistan oil for free so that they should stop supporting the Taliban, ........ WHY ????

......... after all Saudi Arabia had relationship with the Taliban and financed them privately

In the mean time a terrorist organization that Pakistan supports still massacre around 30 Indians in Kashmir and wounds scores of other in a car bomb.......... many other die in smaller terror incidents since Sept. 11 ............. WHY????

Well think AGAIN

Saudi Arabia are very nice toward the FBI they let the FBI collect information from all the family member of bin Laden and the Royal Family actually they invited them to interrogate <GGGGGGG>

Did you in your right mind think that Saudi Arabia gives Pakistan free oil just because they are nice to the US??

why do you think they refused to let the FBI ask some pointed questions of those enjoying the hospitality of the US ??? It was already published that bin Laden in Afghanistan kept in touch by telephone with members of his close family.

Well think AGAIN

Now murderers from the PLO go on a rampage at in a Israeli Hamlet throwing grenades into homes and firing automatic weapons at civilians in their homes ............

A 25 pound car bomb explodes in a Jerusalem neighborhood on eve of a Holiday in front of a school of disabled children ....... yes perfect source of aggressions ..................

Civilians drive in their car and are shot by PLO henchmen "just because they drive on the road at night" ......

Woman men and children celebrate a religious harvest holiday the "Succoth" at the Tomb of Abraham and Sara a holy site in Hebron for Jews Muslim and others ......... murderers from PLO shot at those flagrant "aggressive activities" wound two woman one severely ......... and after there is no instant military response ...... they do the same next day ......... they target woman .......... WHY???????

A suicide murderer buys a military uniform, boards an intercity bus and gets of at the Central Buss Station of an agricultural town shoots blindly on every one around woman child and men ...............

Road side Bombs explodes twice a day near Israeli vehicles, mortars are fired day and night on Israeli homes, rocket propelled grenades are fired on military outpost, tunnels are dug beneath them and then blown up with 200 pound of explosive ................

On all this PLO pays lip service of restrain at best ........... refuses to arrest those perpetrating those murders .......... it is not against the PLO law they say ..........

What do you think Powell told the Israelis ?????? May be he erred and said PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE ????????

Well think AGAIN

Syria is on the list of harboring terrorist organization and is gaining a seat on the UN Security Council ....... how would you call it at a time that not France nor the UK or the US are against that ??????

Well think AGAIN

all of a sudden Iran is on our list of friends as is Syria and others WHY??????

Well think AGAIN

Quran did not preach killing or slaughter ......... and Islam may be one faith but their believers are splintered in many faction some preach to love you neighbor and respect your spouse other preach to be a killing machine, instigate killing of others at their choosing

In Afghanistan they are no Christians or Jews left and the Taliban in the name of Islam kill other innocent believers in Islam and Quran ........ similar situation of various factions in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Algiers Sudan ......

read some history my friend and also what happen during the 10 to the 12th Century to the 3 million Christians who settled on what is now Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Israel ................ old traditions die hard.

will stop at this point waiting for your answers