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To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (57455)	10/6/2001 4:30:48 PM
From: milo_morai	Respond to of 275872

<font color=red>Best Buy has CPQ XP 1800+ Compaq Presario Desktop with AMD Athlon™ XP Processor 1800+ Model: 8881 This Compaq powerhouse features the lightning-fast AMD Athlon™ XP processor 1800+, a giant 80.0GB hard drive, plus DVD and CD-RW drives. Preloaded with Windows XP Home Edition. Monitor sold separately. Not available for delivery at this time. Not available for store pickup. ThinkAbout™ It $1,249.99 No Interest Financing Get no interest financing for 90 days. See the details. Returns & Exchanges In store or by mail, returns and exchanges are easy Service Plan Buy a Performance Service Plan for this product Learn More: Product Details \| Expanded Description \| Warranty PRODUCT FEATURES AMD Athlon™ XP processor 1800+ with QuantiSpeed architecture* QuantiSpeed architecture operates at 1.533GHz Windows XP Home Edition operating system preinstalled 384KB total on-chip memory for efficient system processing 512MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM, expandable to 1.0GB 80.0GB Ultra DMA hard drive 16x maximum speed DVD-ROM drive 16x10x40 CD-RW drive 64MB SDR nVidia GeForce2-MX400 graphics card IEEE 1394 interface and USB connections 10/100Base-T PCI Ethernet card V.90 high-speed fax modem AMD, the AMD Arrow logo, AMD Athlon, QuantiSpeed and combinations thereof are trademarks of Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. PRODUCT DETAILS 8881 Processor Brand AMD Athlon™ XP 1800+ Processor Speed 1.5GHz System Bus 266MHz Cache Memory 128KB (L1) + 256KB (L2) cache System Memory (RAM) 512MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM System Memory (RAM) Expandable To 1.0GB Type of Memory (RAM) DDR SDRAM Hard Drive Type Ultra DMA (7200 rpm) Hard Drive Size 80.0GB Video Memory 64MB Graphics 64MB SDR nVidia GeForce2-MX400 graphics (with TV-out) MPEG No Audio Creative Labs 1373 with 128 voices Speakers Yes Modem 56 Kbps ITU V.90 *Capable of receiving 56 Kbps downloads. However, current regulations limit download speed to 53 Kbps. Network Card 10/100 Ethernet PCI card CD-ROM Drive No Maximum CD-ROM Drive Speed No CD-ROM drive CD-RW Drive Yes CD-RW Drive Speeds 16x10x40 DVD-ROM Drive Yes Maximum DVD-ROM Drive Speed 16x DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo Drive No DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo Drive Speeds No DVD-ROM/CD-RW combo drive DVD-RW Drive No DVD-RW Drive Speeds No DVD-RW drive Removable Storage None Diskette Drive Yes Diskette Drive Type 3.5" 1.44MB Total Expansion Bays External: 2 (5.25"), 1 (3.5"); Internal: 2 (3.5") Available Expansion Slots 3 PCI Available Expansion Bays External: 1 (5.25"); Internal: 1 (3.5") Total Expansion Slots 5 PCI, 1 AGP USB Ports 2 front, 2 back Parallel Ports 1 IEEE 1394 Port 3 Keyboard Description Compaq USB Internet keyboard Serial Ports 2 Other Control Devices (mouse, etc.) Internet scroll mouse Gameports 0 Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Software Included Microsoft Home Suite (preinstalled), including Money 2001, Works 6.0, Encarta Online Deluxe Encyclopedia (1-year free subscription); Compaq Knowledge Center; Selective Quick Restore; Microsoft Media Player 8.0 and more Product Height 17.6" Product Width 6.6" Product Depth 17" Product Weight 29 lbs. Manuals Included Compaq user's guide; Microsoft Windows XP manual Warranty Term — Parts 1 year Warranty Term — Labor 1 year bestbuy.com

To: Monica Detwiler who wrote (57455)	10/6/2001 8:29:54 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

"No OEMs have announced plans to use it - no ISVs have announced software product plans for it." No big surprise there, considering the companies that got burned because they committed to the Itanium and then it got stuck in a holding pattern for several years. I would guess that they would wait until it is close to shipping before publicly committing to it. Considering that a simple re-compile will move most applications to x86-64, there doesn't have to be a big upfront commitment from the software iSV's also. So, unlike Itanium, AMD does not have to bribe companies to make public announcements that they may or may not follow through on, they can let the software companies decide when it makes sense from a business point of view to port their products. It is hard to over-state exactly how brilliant AMD's approach to 64 bit computing is. The best analogy is the 80386. Companies bought 386 machines as a machine that they could run their 16 bit software on, and then have the option to transition to 32 bit software later. With the Hammers, a similar thing could be done to transition from 32 bits to 64 bits. Even if, like the 386, software to support the newer mode is not available at time of shipping, it isn't a big deal. Part of the reason for the difference between Intel's and AMD's implementation is that they are approaching the market two different ways. Intel is trying for a pure 64 bit approach and competing with Sun and IBM. AMD is going for the desktop and trying to offer a product that will transition 32 bit products to 64 bit ones. Frankly, this is a brighter way to do it because it offers backwards compatibility, something that is extremely important. The Itanium requires abandoning current 32 bit software to make the transition, while the Hammers allow that software to be conserved. Now this is ok as long as the software that is being run on those 64 bit systems is going to replaced anyway, and that is the case for some of the market. But AMD is targeting those who want to keep their options open, and there is a much larger market for that. Sorry Monica, you picked the wrong door, again. Bye, bye. You are the weakest link...