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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (189786)10/6/2001 4:43:42 PM
From: goldworldnet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
You make a valid point and I too have been guilty of making generalizations.

Most people are decent folk somewhere in the middle of most of the topics discussed here.

Unfortunately, highly vocal minorities on both sides of the spectrum receive move attention than is appropriate.

Old Saying:
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

BTW, you know I won't ever become a liberal.

Happy Posting.

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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (189786)10/6/2001 5:01:44 PM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 769670
 
you are full of crappola.( and I mean that in a brown way.)

You use EVERY opportunity to dig and slash, any subject, does not matter,....your posts are becoming more idiotic every day. you taking over tiggers job?



To: Mr. Whist who wrote (189786)10/7/2001 12:30:35 AM
From: Tom Clarke  Respond to of 769670
 
Man who killed ex-wife and son hated guns, sister tells police

10/06/2001

By CONNIE PILOTO / The Dallas Morning News

Two boxes of ammunition, a gun cleaning kit and ear protectors were found in the car of Steven Cummings Loss, who killed his former wife and 7-year-old son before killing himself Wednesday night, Highland Park police said Friday.

Investigators also said the 9 mm Colt pistol Mr. Loss used in the attack had not been fired much. Detectives also were trying to determine when and where Mr. Loss purchased the pistol.

"There were two boxes of ammunition," said Detective Randy Millican. "One box contained practice ammunition, and the other had more expensive ammunition."

Mr. Loss, 43, drove to his ex-wife's home Wednesday evening to take his sons to dinner. When his former wife and two sons greeted him at the door, he started shooting, police said. Bonnie Loss-Murphy, 43, and Evan Loss, 7, were killed by gunshot wounds to the head. After the shootings, Mr. Loss then shot and killed himself.

The couple's older son, Craig Loss, 14, survived the attack. He was shot twice as he fled into the street, but wounds in his back and shoulder were not life-threatening, authorities said.

Investigators said Friday that they don't know what led to the shootings.

"We've talked to his sister and a former girlfriend, and they all say that he hated guns," Detective Millican said. "He even hated BB guns."

Craig later told police that his father was wearing headphones connected to a compact disc and radio. There was not a disc in the portable player, and police are not sure what station Mr. Loss was listening to.

Detective Millican said Craig is expected to be released early next week from Baylor University Medical Center.

His stepfather, Gerard Murphy, has been at Craig's bedside since the shootings, Detective Millican said.

"They appear to have a very strong bond," Detective Millican said.

Police said Mr. Loss had been living at a Residence Inn in North Dallas for about a week. There, police found a suitcase with some clothing, his laptop computer, résumés and his dog, Muffin.

Detectives are reviewing the documents stored in the computer to determine whether Mr. Loss had left a note or any other indication that he was planning to kill Ms. Loss-Murphy and their children. Craig told police he had seen a will on the laptop.

Police and relatives said Mr. Loss was not a heavy drinker or drug user. He had no criminal record or history of violent behavior.

Ms. Loss-Murphy, her sons and new husband had moved into the new home in the 3600 block of Mockingbird Lane this year.

Mr. Loss and his former wife remained in touch after their 1997 divorce but had argued about child support payments, police said.

When Mr. Loss lost his job as an electrical engineer at Alcatel in 1999, he fell behind in his payments.

Ms. Loss-Murphy visited her attorney last spring and complained that Mr. Loss seemed to have plenty of money for himself but none for his sons.

Mr. Loss had not held a job since he was laid off and told friends he lived off his investments and a severance package. He had been living with his mother in St. Louis for 18 months, but he had recently returned to Texas because he wanted to reconnect with the boys, relatives said.

A neighbor who knew the couple when they were married and lived in Plano said Mr. Loss was a recluse, but she said she could not believe he would kill his former wife or children.

"She was such a nice person and such a good mother," said September Sartain. "He was strange," she said of Steven Loss. "Real withdrawn. But you would never imagine someone doing something like that.

Funeral arrangements for Ms. Loss-Murphy and Evan Loss were pending Friday.

Staff writer Linda Stewart Ball contributed to this report.

dallasnews.com