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To: HG who wrote (3098)10/6/2001 11:02:00 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 281500
 
Well, this seem to get too detailed for the present situation..

Anyway, some of what I have "found out" during many years, always ready for new things..

- kings were, at first elected by the "council", much like the electors of US (Finland had them too
when things where "more difficult", the population could not be expected to know "everything", that is,
indirect elections)

- to avoid a new power struggle when the king got old, the job was inherited (the king is dead, long live the
new king)

- Kings, as presidents, should represent the whole nation, and maintain "stability".

- a representive democracy means that the members of congress only represent those who elected
them, mostly against "those others"

- that is, congress is " a forum for public debates and fights", just like internet, while the king, president
should balance that (without getting government and senates)

- "upper houses", senates, "house of lords" should represent more "long term", conservative goals.
(while the monkey house monkeys around, the other side of the coin)

- one result is that single house systems usually has a "house" elected government, run by a prime
minsiter, and this "administration" is, in non-US systems, dependent on the support of the "house
of the commons" (UK is finally getting rid of the lords)

Anyway, of you followed me through this, it boils down to a balance of long term, national and
local issues.

- representation through an locally elected "congress", where local, domestic issues should be
debated, fought over

- a balance by some other institution, representing long term goals, all of the nation, foreign policy,etc.

- but dependent on the support of the"|local monkey representants", fighting over local, domestic issues.

Monarchies (modern) usually have the problem that they have a "monkey house", even a "prime minister"
and a "government", but no president. That is, the balancing institution to the "domestic monkeying around".

This is where the "upper house" comes in, but few nations like to have two houses, as it might become
a source for "grid locks",etc..

Ilmarinen

Not very well explained, too tired, but some of "my 15 years" thoughts on what goes on,
partly inspired by having to understand the US,UK system.